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[rpd] Co-Chair Election Process
Mary-Jane Sule
mjaysule at gmail.com
Thu Jul 16 14:43:31 UTC 2020
Dear Murungi,
I wldnt have answered to any of these mails but for your comment that says
> I have been a passive observer of various AFRINIC lists for many years now. Am venturing out of my cave, the rest should follow suit.
Really?
Ok we all are different and have different personalities that you did it doesn’t mean others must. Good for you as you have decided..... Infact variety is how the world works you need to know that...
That some one is part of a mailing list or a group must even count for something....We CAN’T all do or be the same even in a nuclear family. Forcing some one to do or be something in YOUR way may amount to bullying....I would guess part of the deal with AFRINIC is to be leaders who can accommodate as many irrespective of our nature/personalities
Rgds
Mary-Jane
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> On 16 Jul 2020, at 16:18, Murungi Daniel <dmurungi at wia.co.tz> wrote:
>
> Dear Yakmut,
>
> I have been a passive observer of various AFRINIC lists for many years now. Am venturing out of my cave, the rest should follow suit.
>
> The suggestions are not an attempt at suppressing anyone. They are simply suggestions to address the challenges presented to us. We have no mandate to adopt them unless we get consensus from the community.
>
> Additionally, simply voting without being apart of the conversation robs the whole community of trains of thought we might have missed. It also amplifies concerns about “sleeper agents”.
>
> It is great that you are raising criticisms and figuring out loopholes. Kindly posit some recommendations as well. Advising that we abandon the election simply kicks the problem down the line.
>
>
> Regards,
> Murungi Daniel
>
>
>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>> How do we generate a voters register? How do we verify that the voters are humans not robots?
>>
>> Let us remember, there are people who will never participate in exchanges on the rpd, but when it comes to voting they will vote, because they have been passive observers. So tying any condition like no. of posts is an exclusion agenda.
>>
>> It is an attempt by the vocal minority to suppress the silent majority, and this is a recipe for commotion.
>>
>> That is why I posit that, agreeing to terms and conditions for e-voting in a polarise environment will take time, intense discussions, confidence building and trust. This I am not sure we can achieve before September.
>>
>> Hence, the tenure extension will allow us resolve all issues. I think e-voting is inevitable in the foreseeable future.
>>
>> Simply,
>> Daniel
>>
>>> On Jul 16, 2020 12:55 PM, "Paschal Ochang" <pascosoft at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Yes I will gave to agree with the extension of the period of service of the current co-chair whose tenure is about to expire. In as much as almost every process in the is pandemic era will benefit from virtual participations we need to look at the intricacies of the current suggestions for using rpd participants and remote voting.
>>>
>>> I can remember that a policy regarding electronic voting was rejected due to loopholes in the proposal.
>>>
>>> Secondly disenfranchising folks who will love to participate even in the last minute should not be justifiable.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, July 16, 2020, Taiwo Oyewande <taiwo.oyewande88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Eddy, Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> At a time like this, based on the importance of the co-chair election to the policy development process, the standing election process that clearly states a show of hands and the delicate nature of this election, i will like to suggest that the period of service of the current co-chair be extended till the next face to face meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Taiwo
>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Jul 2020, at 11:48, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, in fact looking at the features and the way it works, seems very very close to what LACNIC is using (I believe the developed in-house, but I’m not sure).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jordi
>>>>>
>>>>> @jordipalet
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> El 16/7/20 12:35, "Mike Silber" <silber.mike at gmail.com> escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This platform has been recommended to me and code is available: https://heliosvoting.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Jul 2020, at 11:51, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Eddy, all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LACNIC always do this remotely and electronically, using the subscribers in the RPD mailing list at some point before the process starts (to avoid “lots of friends” not really “part of the PDP” to join the day before the voting).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I will think it is the best choice we have in replacement for a non-in-person-meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think they could help in providing the platform or the code or something similar, in case you don’t have already an existing platform to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jordi
>>>>>
>>>>> @jordipalet
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> El 16/7/20 11:47, "Eddy Kayihura" <eddy at afrinic.net> escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear PDWG community members
>>>>>
>>>>> The Public Policy Meeting will be on the agenda of the Africa Internet Summit 2020 (AIS-20) inSeptember. One PDWG co-chair’s term (one year) will end during the Public Policy Meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> The election process for the PDWG co-chair (please see https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election for more details) says that voting shall be by a simple show of hands. However, this Public Policy meeting shall be held online.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are therefore requesting feedback from the community on how AFRINIC can best proceed with the election to fill the vacant seat of one PDP co-chair. We shall be delighted to receive your proposals for this important matter and hope we can have a consensus within a week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Eddy
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>> Chers membres de la communauté du PDWG,
>>>>>
>>>>> La réunion de politique publique sera à l'ordre du jour du Sommet Africain de l'Internet 2020 (AIS-20) qui se tiendra du 14 au 18 septembre 2020. Le mandat d'un des coprésidents du PDWG (un an) prendra fin pendant la réunion de politique publique.
>>>>>
>>>>> Le processus d'élection du coprésident du PDWG (voir https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election pour plus de détails) prévoit que le vote se fera à main levée. Toutefois, cette réunion de politique publique se tiendra en ligne.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nous demandons donc à la communauté de nous faire part de ses commentaires sur la meilleure façon pour AFRINIC de procéder à l'élection pour pourvoir le siège vacant d'un coprésident du PDP. Nous serons ravis de recevoir vos propositions sur cette importante question et esperons avoir un consensus dans une semaine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cordialement,
>>>>>
>>>>> Eddy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eddy Kayihura
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chief Executive Officer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)
>>>>>
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