[rpd] New version of AFPUB-2019-IPv4-002-DRAFT03 "IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope)"

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ]

Hi Mike,

 

Exactly, that’s the point.

 

Thanks for your support!

 

The reality is that *even* if we don’t have that text in the policy, the staff can always call the board which in turn, can always “stop any policy”, because they have a responsibility to protect the membership/organization (and consequently the managed resources).

 

This happened recently in ARIN, right?

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 27/11/19 17:00, "Mike Burns" <mike at iptrading.com> escribió:

 

Hi Jordi,

 

While I do not see it as healthy to have staff-bypass language present in policy, I understand you included the language at community request. In that case, I will support the policy as written in the hope this language will never need to be  utilized.

 

I can’t think of a similar circumstance having occurred in my experience anyway, at any other RIR.

 

Regards,
Mike

 

 

From: Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 2:11 PM
To: 'Fernando Frediani' <fhfrediani at gmail.com>; 'rpd at afrinic.net' <rpd at afrinic.net>
Subject: RE: [rpd] New version of AFPUB-2019-IPv4-002-DRAFT03 "IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope)"

 

Hi Jordi,

 

Thanks for the diffchecker layout.

I agree with Fernando that this should not be a board issue.

Particularly in a fraught environment of board/staff responsibility, I think that you should remove the language about the escalation to the board, and adopt Fernando’s ideas about a structured, staff-based appeal process. I don’t think the details of that process belong in the policy necessarily, but we should direct the staff to organize and administer that appeal process.

 

I would support this policy with that change to remove the specified escalation to the board language.

 

Regards,
Mike

 

 

From: Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 1:34 PM
To: rpd at afrinic.net
Subject: Re: [rpd] New version of AFPUB-2019-IPv4-002-DRAFT03 "IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope)"

 

Hello Jordi

The text seems fine despite the change of wording on some parts, at the end they means about the same thing. I have 2 points to note:

- on 5.7.6 it says "information permitted by the source or recipient". Although there is minimum mandatory information that must be published, I understand the wording allow the RIR to publish extra information or notes about the transaction ? How likely is that to happen and what examples of information would be that ? Could you clarify a bit further.

- On 5.7.7.2 there is a possibility, should the staff finds a transaction suspicious, to escalate it for the Board for a final decision. I normally think this type of individual thing should not end up in the Board, but internally inside the staff in a well defined appeal process because they are staff decisions (e.g: appeal to the Manager, Director, CEO, etc). The Board should only be involved in something that affects several members or a number of organizations (for example to preemptively suspend a policy that may be damaging the RIR or the Community, etc). The same way the Board can always issue statements for staff on certain topics and procedures but always in a more generic way.

Best regards
Fernando Frediani

On 26/11/2019 14:58, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:
Hi all,
 
Find attached a new version of the proposal "IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope)".
 
As usual, I've considered the inputs received.
 
I've also prepared a diff with the previous version:
 
https://www.diffchecker.com/azpn4DK0
 
Thanks!
 
Regards,
Jordi
 
 
 
 
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