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[rpd] new version of policy proposal AFPUB-2019-ASN-DRAFT03 "Multihoming not required for ASN"

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Mon Nov 25 11:25:35 UTC 2019


Hi Owen,



As I see no opposition to your points and I also agree with them, I’m editing a new version that I shall publish in a while.



Thanks!



Regards,

Jordi

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El 13/11/19 2:07, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> escribió:







On Nov 12, 2019, at 02:04 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:



Hi Owen,

In the previous meeting, that sentence with the private ASNs was already there, nobody objected to it, including yourself. That's why I didn't modified that part.



I apologize for not previously noticing it.



I think it provides clarity, however, if is a problem for anyone, I'm happy to remove that. A middle way alterative is a footnote:



A footnote still duplicates data unnecessarily and creates a need to update the CPM any time the IETF chooses to adjust the private ASN range(s). We should avoid duplicating IETF information in policy to avoid the risk of it falling out of sync.



It is important to determine which sites require unique AS Numbers. Sites which do not require a unique AS Number should use one or more of the AS Numbers reserved for private use*.

*Those numbers are: 64,512 - 65,535 and 4,200,000,000 - 4,294,967,294 (RFC1930, RFC6996 and possible future updates) - date of publication.

Will you agree on that?

Regarding your point on 7.2.2, your wording "technical need", an ISP that has a single upstream and that single upstream is mandating to provide BGP a public ASN, I think will not fall into "technical need”.



It certainly falls into “Unique Routing Policy”, but I would say that it also meets the definition of “technical need”, since the affected organization cannot technically route their addresses via said provider without a public ASN.



Owen




Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet



El 12/11/19 2:57, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> escribió:

Oppose as written.

Adding the specific AS numbers for private use to 7.2 is an unnecessary duplication of data that has no mechanism for preserving synchronization with reality.

Take that out and I would support the policy as written, tough I would prefer to replace 7.2.2 with:

7.2.2 Show a unique routing policy or demonstrate a technical need for a coordinated globally unique ASN.

Owen




On Nov 11, 2019, at 01:50 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:

Hi all,

One of the policy proposals that I've updated a week ago, is attached in PDF.

As usual, it tries to address the inputs from the list, meeting and staff analysis.

Please, let me know any inputs.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet





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