[rpd] Sami's status as a co-chair

[Arnaud AMELINA]

Andrew,

Why do you always react following your ego and  pursuing personal interest
and not community interest?  When you started this palaver on last call and
Sami tenure, you tried on community-discuss to use data you have not cross
checked to discredit  the organization  performance. What is your real
motive? Is this what we should expect from Liquid telecom all along ?

Arnaud

Le mer. 5 déc. 2018 20:10, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
a écrit :

> Komi,
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> You cannot rewrite the mandate granted by the community in the minutes.
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> Fact – the reality is – the community voted – clearly – on a 6 month
> mandate – that is indisputable fact.
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> Fact – that mandate expired
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> What the **minutes** say does not change the reality of a video recorded
> meeting.
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> When the issue was raised – is immaterial – the context of the issue being
> raised – is immaterial – fact – is fact – the mandate was granted – the
> mandate expired.
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> Andrew
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> *From: *Komi Elitcha <kmw.elitcha at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 5 December 2018 at 21:30
> *To: *Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
> *Cc: *"AfriNIC RPD MList." <rpd at afrinic.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [rpd] Sami's status as a co-chair
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> Hello Andrew,
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> The minutes(*) of the PPM  of AFRINIC-28 was published by co-chairs as
> mandated by the PDP.
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> The cochair election sections (6.1) read:
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> "The Elections Committee asked for a show of hands for those in favor, and
> those not in favor of Mark Elkins’ candidature. After a show of hands,
> there were 22 in favor and 56 not in favor of Mark’s candidature.
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> NomCom Chair called for nominations from the floor to fill the empty PDWG
> co-chair seat.
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> There were suggestions that the position be filled by a temporary co-chair
> until there’s another nominations process to find a replacement co-chair.
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> Sami Salih (the outgoing co-chair) offered to continue as co-chair till
> there is a process in future to find a new co-chair.
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> Delegates were asked if there is support for Sami to continue as co-chair
> till the next scheduled nominations period. There was strong support to
> have Sami continue – and he was therefore tasked to serve as temporary
> co-chair until the next scheduled nominations season."
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> Practices at AFRINIC is that Elections are held  mostly during the
> community meeting coupled with AGMM. So it is not surprising to see that
> the PDWG admin page(**) lists Sami as cochair with term June2016 -
> June2019.
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> This probably explains why an election process was not triggered for the
> AFRINIC-29.
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> Nobody raised an alarm when the 77 days before election day passed (15
> September 2018) and there was no nomination process.Furthermore, at the
> beginning of the PPM in Hammamet, there was no objection to Sami chairing
> the meeting.
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> Making all these noises, and challenging Sami right to operate at the
> meeting and moving on, just because Co-chairs made a decision one does not
> like is not responsible.
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> Decency would have required the separation of issues  appropriately
> handling them through other mechanisms, which would  normally be more
> consensual with interest in conflict resolution an in an appealing manner .
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> Hope this helps
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> -Komi
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> https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group/ppm-afrinic-28
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> (**)https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#admin
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> Le mar. 4 déc. 2018 à 4:52 PM, Andrew Alston <
> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> a écrit :
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> Hi All,
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> I want to clarify something – to be very sure.
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> If I am correct – there was no election of a PDP co-chair in Tunisia.  Can
> someone please confirm that?  Because if there was no election – we only
> have ONE chair at the moment – and Sami’s status as a co-chair has lapsed
> and he cannot adjudicate on consensus.
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> I say this – because in Dakar – and for those of you that were not there,
> please see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTApl4QHfY at about 13
> minutes in, Sami’s position was granted as interim only – and only for the
> following 6 months until the next PDP.
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> So – unless there was an election called – and video evidence of this –
> Sami is no longer eligible to act in the position of co-chair – since his
> mandate was not granted by this community on the floor of a meeting, and as
> per the legal counsel at the Dakar meeting – any position into which Sami
> entered – was only valid until the November meeting, and the co-chair goes
> on, on record on the microphone to further state that Sami was only
> appointed “Until the next PDP meeting”
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> Sami – on that note, thank you for your service as the interim co-chair
> over the preceeding 6 months.
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> Andrew
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