[rpd] Sami's status as a co-chair

[Owen DeLong]

> On Dec 5, 2018, at 12:12 , ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
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> Dear all,
> I would have wished to remain quite and keep watching things but it seams sometimes it's better to talk. 

True. This may not, however, be one of those times, but that’s entirely your decision.

> The only reason why Sami's position is being challenged now is because he took a deciosn that some people are not happy with and they now feel cutting his head off is better. 

I disagree with Sami’s and Dewole’s collective decision in this case. However, I have not, nor have I seen anyone else advocate decapitation of either of them, nor is anyone questioning Dewole’s standing. As such, I do not think you can fairly characterize those claiming that Sami’s term expired as related to the decision he made.

Frankly, I don’t care all that much whether his term expired or not, so I’m not going to weigh into that particular drama other than to say that regardless of motivation, the facts appear to support what Andrew is saying and if Andrew’s factual statements are true, then, there is an issue to be addressed regardless of how one feels about this particular decision.

> This is just rediculus. Can we not separate issues and always have to degenerate to this level.  

Not sure what you mean by separating issues. I don’t think anyone is trying to combine the question of Sami’s term expiration with the question of last call except to the extent that they are inexorably linked in such a way that if his term expired prior to the decision, then his participation in the decision process creates a legitimate concern about the validity of said decision.

> This was exactly my point in Tunisia. We need personality change not a change in policy cos some people would always want to have thier personal interest protected against the collective interest. 

While I believe your statement is partially true, I do not think it applies to the opposition to this policy nearly so much as to the proponents.

While I won’t defend Andrew’s actions in most cases, nor will I defend his personality… I find both rather reprehensible quite often and I tell him so directly on a regular basis (usually in private)… Nonetheless,  when he offers facts with evidence to back up those factual claims, it makes little sense to dispute them just because you don’t like the way he presents them.

Owen

> Thanks
> Abdulkarim
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> On Tue, 4 Dec 2018, 17:50 Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com <mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
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> I want to clarify something – to be very sure.
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> If I am correct – there was no election of a PDP co-chair in Tunisia.  Can someone please confirm that?  Because if there was no election – we only have ONE chair at the moment – and Sami’s status as a co-chair has lapsed and he cannot adjudicate on consensus.
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> I say this – because in Dakar – and for those of you that were not there, please see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTApl4QHfY <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTApl4QHfY> at about 13 minutes in, Sami’s position was granted as interim only – and only for the following 6 months until the next PDP.
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> So – unless there was an election called – and video evidence of this – Sami is no longer eligible to act in the position of co-chair – since his mandate was not granted by this community on the floor of a meeting, and as per the legal counsel at the Dakar meeting – any position into which Sami entered – was only valid until the November meeting, and the co-chair goes on, on record on the microphone to further state that Sami was only appointed “Until the next PDP meeting”
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> Sami – on that note, thank you for your service as the interim co-chair over the preceeding 6 months.
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> Andrew
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