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[rpd] Opposing the last call made on the review policy

Chevalier du Borg virtual.borg at
Mon Dec 3 15:45:20 UTC 2018

Le lun. 3 déc. 2018 à 19:16, Owen DeLong <owen at> a écrit :

> > A policy can never pass in this community if a virulent few people
> insist on say "oppose", "oppose", “oppose"
> Nor should it. A consensus driven process is supposed to operate on, well,
> consensus. Consensus means a lack of sustained objection.
> Now, if a few people say “oppose oppose oppose” without giving reasons for
> their opposition, that’s one thing.
> However, this proposal faces sustained objection from (what I would call
> more than a few) on grounds that are material and relevant.

At some point, someone other than the person shouting "oppose", "oppose"
has to weigh the counter argument and determine if the issue raised have
been addressed. But that is never going to happen with the few virulent

> > If this bottom up thing is failing, maybe it time we leave this to
> gouvenment and ITU adult to operate.
> So far, the only failures I see are the following:

That what  *you* see. I also see failure where outsiders to this region,
people with no skin in the game are the very loud voices support a policy
whose bad consequence they dont have to live with. That is the moral hazard
of the war-mongering policy analyst who said write long pieces to justify
removal of a dictator in a foreign country for the sake of "freedom" or

> Outside of these two concerns which, so far, apply only to this particular
> proposal, I think the process is generally
> working.

Actually, the cancer goes beyond just this policy.

> It’s working well in 4 out of 5 regions.

1 billion sighting of white swan is not prove that black swan don't exist

> Owen

Borg le Chevalier
"Common sense is what tells us the world is flat"
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