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[rpd] Inter-RIR Resource

Tue Nov 27 21:53:18 UTC 2018

Somebody responded me in private with some hints to consider on this talk. I've been authorized to introduce those in the list but not mention who made the comments, because their corporate policy doesn't allow them to talk in public.

1) IPv6 adoption has no correlation with IPv4 availability or prices. In a dual stack world, they are complementary goods, not substitutes.
2) RIPE became a net importer of addresses when it switched from intra-rir to inter-rir.
3) Many AFRINIC address holders are waiting for inter-rir before they consider selling.  Therefore, those ranges remain unavailable.
4) Markets impose efficiency on resource consumption.  The bigger and more transparent the market, the more efficient.
5) Prices will likely rise in the near term. Restrictions on access to AFRINIC members will likely cost the more, either now or later.

Note that I'm not saying I'm supporting or not those comments, just introducing them so they are part of the discussion.

De: Omo Oaiya <Omo.Oaiya at>
Fecha: martes, 27 de noviembre de 2018, 18:12
Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at>
CC: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at>, <rpd at>
Asunto: Re: [rpd] Inter-RIR Resource
On 27 Nov 2018, at 10:51, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at> wrote:
Sometimes, for deploying IPv6, you may need small pools of IPv4. For example, for a NAT64 if you go to 464XLAT, which is what all the rest of the world is doing. If there are no more IPv4 addresses in the region, the few left addresses will go more and more and more expensive.
So even deploying IPv6 may require some more addresses. If we don’t have a policy like this, how AfriNIC ISPs are going to do it? They could just reuse existing addresses and several levels of NAT: More expensive, worst for the users, worst for the ISP (increased logging cost), works for fighting against cybercrim
The likelihood of inbound transfers happening is low and these cover the eventuality you describe above.   Better that legacy addresses are transferred within the AFRINIC region than outbound.

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