[rpd] Policy Proposal Update - Inter-RIR Resource Transfers v2

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ]

Hi Owen,

Is just an example, but as you said, if that company is moving from RIPE NCC to AfriNIC (and establishing a new company here), doesn't make any sense that they keep the RIPE membership, and instead they sign the AfriNIC one.

There are many possible cases, such as if it is a division of the company responsible for the DC being sold to an African company, etc.

Regards,
Jordi
 
 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
Fecha: martes, 27 de noviembre de 2018, 20:08
Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
CC: Willy MANGA <mangawilly at gmail.com>, <rpd at afrinic.net>
Asunto: Re: [rpd] Policy Proposal Update - Inter-RIR Resource Transfers v2

    Actually, Jordi, under existing RIPE policies, they don’t need to renumber unless they are looking to terminate their relationship with RIPE NCC.
    
    Owen
    
    
    > On Nov 27, 2018, at 09:13 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
    > 
    > Hi Willy,
    > 
    > A very simple one (I'm sure there may be other examples).
    > 
    > A company moves from Europe to Africa (or moves from a DC in Europe to Africa). Never mind is the company or just the hosting service. May be because they have been acquired by an African company, but may be other reasons.
    > 
    > Without this policy they need to renumber. They may be using their own IPv4, IPv6 and AS, for example with VMs. This is today very common.
    > 
    > If they move from Europe to other regions, they don't need to renumber.
    > 
    > If we allow only transfering IPv4, then they will transfer IPv6 under the table, no doubt! It doesn't make sense.
    > 
    > So the reason for allow AS and IPv6 transfers is not because scarcity, but because networks may be dual-stacked, you need to support that.
    > 
    > By the way, thir morning I learned from Marco, the policy responsible from RIPE, that last week it was done the first ASN transfer from RIPE to APNIC. So this demonstrates, that it is a not usual case, but it happens. So why we must restrict those cases?
    > 
    > Regards,
    > Jordi
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > -----Mensaje original-----
    > De: Willy MANGA <mangawilly at gmail.com>
    > Fecha: martes, 27 de noviembre de 2018, 18:03
    > Para: <rpd at afrinic.net>
    > Asunto: Re: [rpd] Policy Proposal Update - Inter-RIR Resource Transfers v2
    > 
    >    Hi,
    > 
    >    Le 21/11/2018 à 13:47, Sami Salih a écrit :
    >> Dears AFRINIC PDWG Members,
    >> 
    >> The Authors of the policy proposal (Inter-RIR Resource Transfers) has
    >> submitted an update to the proposal document (v2). Please find the
    >> updates on the link below:
    >> 
    >> https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2018-gen-003-d2 
    > 
    >    Can we have some use case of IPv6 transfer between RIR ?
    > 
    > 
    >    -- 
    >    Willy Manga
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    >    https://ongola.blogspot.com/
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