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[rpd] Objections should not require amendments

Frank Habicht geier at geier.ne.tz
Wed May 9 17:21:27 UTC 2018


Hi Caleb,

noted, thanks!

Frank

On 5/9/2018 8:08 PM, caleb olumuyiwa wrote:
> Hello Frank,
> 
> Please note for the record that i'm not refering to any specific policy
> but the procedure of improvement to the PDP process of any policy.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz
> <mailto:geier at geier.ne.tz>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi,
> 
>     On 5/9/2018 7:07 PM, caleb olumuyiwa wrote:
>     > Hello Owen,
>     > 
>     > I strongly object to your submission. If you want a policy process to
>     > improve with the interest of the community at heart, i strongly feel
>     > that there should be some mid point where those objecting and those
>     > proposing can have a middle point that can improve and polish a proposal.
> 
>     I think that's not possible if a part of the community desires less
>     restrictions on IP address distribution and another part desires more
>     restrictions on IP address distribution.
> 
>     These are really opposite directions desired. In the absence of
>     consensus the status quo is the middle ground.
> 
>     ...
> 
>     > I see no reason why a policy proposal should be abandoned if it has it's
>     > merit and is still undergoing refinement based on suggestions from the
>     > community and a rough concensus was formed by the co-chairs.
> 
>     The fact is that a part of the community wishes IP address distribution
>     to _NOT_ become more restrictive.
>     This is the conflict that needs to be addressed, because all further
>     arguments come from that.
> 
> 
>     Frank
> 
>     > 
>     > Caleb Ogundele 
>     > 
>     >  
>     > 
>     > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>
>     > <mailto:owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>>> wrote:
>     > 
>     >     It is very dangerous and improper in my opinion to require those
>     >     that object to a policy proposal to provide proposed amendments to
>     >     the proposal.
>     > 
>     >     Such a requirement presumes that the proposal is entitled to
>     >     eventually become policy. Some proposals simply don’t improve
>     >     current policy and it is perfectly valid to abandon such proposals
>     >     and opposition to the proposal requesting that the status quo be
>     >     preserved is an entirely valid position.
>     > 
>     >     Owen
>     > 
>     > 
>     > 
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