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[rpd] Appeal against softlanding-bis declaration of consensus
jacksonmuthi at gmail.com
Thu Jan 11 06:19:31 UTC 2018
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 8:34 AM, John Hay <jhay at meraka.csir.co.za> wrote:
> Hi Jackson,
> On 11 January 2018 at 06:58, Jackson Muthili <jacksonmuthi at gmail.com>
>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:52 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>> > Still nobody has actually addressed the substance of our arguments
>> > the proposal. Do you have any answer to the issue of unfairness raised
>> > repeatedly with regard to the way in which a 24 month waiting period
>> > not protect those in line, but those not yet in line at the expense of
>> > providers which need more than a /18 for continued growth? Do you have
>> > response to the merits of my demonstration that it doesn’t even have to
>> be a
>> > particularly large provider or a large deployment in order to require
>> > than a /18 every 2 years?
>> Those not yet in line are the largest chunk in Africa not in America -
>> the community you operate and live in. If you want the tiny few in line to
>> gobble up everything, I must remind you again that AfriNIC resource
>> distribution environment is not a capitalist approach where its an open
>> shop for who has the money to come buy, deplete and go make a killing at
>> the detriment of the upcoming and majority existing others that will
>> happily be protected in that 24 month window. The tiny few will have
>> complaints. The mostly others on the continent will be protected. This
>> situation now is no longer a free market but a period of responsible
>> custody of a scarce public resource. (The resource is not for a wealthy few
>> but : for the *public*).
>> You may think different but this does not make the current situation of
>> scarcity against a largely unconnected community go away. Think fair
>> distribution not capitalism and open/free market.
>> A scarce public resource cannot be carelessly doled out irresponsibly for
>> monetary gains of a privileged few. Sorry.
> So if you want to connect more than a /18 of African users to the internet
> in a 2 year period, you are a privileged few, a depleter, making a killing,
> and it is to the detriment of .... those that you connected? ... Or those
> that have not been connected yet?
You are veering out of context on purpose it appears.
The current remaining IPv4 addresses can even be used by one or two
companies to serve millions of their customers in less than a year and they
will be depleted. In any configuration of distribution, they are simply not
Those bigger organisations do not take the IP address space out of Africa.
> They also do not leave it unused. They would not be able to request more if
> they left it unused. They want to use it to connect African people to the
> internet. Surely that is not against Africa or its people?
Those very few but bigger organizations are not the only ones with the
noble albeit profit-making intent of connecting those African people.
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