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[rpd] Competitions Tribunal Petition

Jacob Odame-Baiden odamyte at gmail.com
Sat Dec 30 21:21:07 UTC 2017


I am worried that this Jacob Odame might be impersonating my account. I am
an AFRINIC 25 Fellow and my exact name buy a different email address is
being used to communicate on this forum. I will entreat admin to verify and
deal with this.

I need to be sure that there is another Jacob.

Best,
Jacob

On 30 Dec 2017 18:21, "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
wrote:

> Ignoring the underlined bolder hyperbolic, let me comment bluntly and
> simply:
>
> I will do whatever I feel necessary to protect the industry in which I
> work.  I will do whatever I feel necessary to protect the consumers of
> internet services on this continent. I will react to any threat that I see
> to the industry or to the consumer - and I make no apologies for it.
>
> We keep referring to how the “community” wants something or doesn’t want
> it -  yet the reality is - we are a divided community - divided on
> linguistic grounds - divided on geographic grounds - divided on ideology.
>
> The statements made about the will of the community as based on the absurd
> notion that only one segment of the community has any validity - and anyone
> who disagrees is not part of said community or is some how the enemy - this
> is not the case - but that is how it is portrayed.
>
> I will not get into the specifics of any particular policy in this email -
> but I will say this - should AfriNIC and the policies by which it operates
> become a threat to the industry at large in any portion of this continent -
> or compromise the growth of internet penetration on this continent in
> violation of section 3 of the bylaws - or act outside of the laws under
> which it is governed - be they the companies act - the bylaws - the
> competitions act - or the very procedures and policies that have been
> ratified through legitimate board mandates - then do not cry foul when
> people react - especially after repeated warnings.
>
> I am beyond threats - beyond intimidation - and quite frankly beyond being
> cowed into submission by people claiming that is what I am attempting.  I
> act in the manner that I see best for the industry - and if indeed there is
> no violation of the law - and if indeed correct procedures and policies
> have been followed - then my actions represent no threat.  The threat only
> exists if you acknowledge wrong doing in the first instance.
>
> As for wanting to do AfriNIC harm - you are incorrect in this as well - I
> have no desire to do harm to AfriNIC - however - the good of the industry
> and the African consumer outweighs Afrinic - and if in sincere belief I am
> acting in the best interests of those two groups and that requires that I
> act against AfriNIC - so be it - it is not from a desire to do harm - it is
> from a desire to protect an industry I hold dear and that I have worked my
> entire adult life to promote across large segments of this continent.
>
> So yes - I am now taking actions - actions for which I make no apologies -
> and which are the pure result of repeated and ignored warnings about the
> consequences of actions.  It strikes me - and maybe I am misreading this -
> that a particular group of individuals are hell bent on seeing their
> policies past - no matter the consequences to the industry - and expect to
> have others let them behave in a matter that is completely contrary to
> community consensus or the good of the collective industry - that is naive
> in the extreme.
>
> So in summary - I will act - always within the bounds of the law - and to
> the best of my abi.oty - to protect the industry - to protect the consumer
> - and I will make no apologies for this.
>
> Andrew
>
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> _____________________________
> From: Jacob Odame <jacobodame00 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 03:45
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Competitions Tribunal Petition
> To: Andrew Alston <andrew.alston at liquidtelecom.com>
> Cc: rpd <rpd at afrinic.net>
>
>
> It is now brutally clear that Andrew's position is that *he is either
> right or righ*t and that he will*anything* to cause harm to our very own
> registry AfriNIC when his position conflicts with that of the community.
>
> It is also clear that he does not take the community's views in any esteem
> and regard since*he wants a government to force the AfriNIC Board to push
> policies top down* to us the community.
>
> A very absurd situation.
>
> I know that the appeal committee and AfriNIC Board will not budge to
> threats and intimidation and will exercise good judgement for the good of
> the entire community and not a privileged, loud and malicious few. The
> continent*should not and cannot be held ransom* by such individuals.
>
> Jacob
>
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Andrew Alston <
> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Everything stated here is done in my personal capacity and is not
>> necessarily representative of the views of any organization to which I am
>> affiliated.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is a sad day when it comes to this – but due to the significant
>> business risks imposed by the potential ratification of the soft-landing
>> policy, and the boards lack of response to repeated queries as to AFRINIC’s
>> violation of Mauritian law – the time has come to now test these potential
>> violations and to see if there is any recourse.
>>
>>
>>
>> Since this document contains direct reference to issues of policy that
>> would normally fall under the RPD – I am sending this to the list.  Those
>> who wish to join the petition to the competitions tribunal can print this –
>> sign it – and scan it back to me.  This document will be submitted to the
>> competitions tribunal within the next 14 days – to give people a chance to
>> digest its contents and decide for themselves if they believe they wish to
>> be party to this action.
>>
>>
>>
>> Note: As per the rules of the competitions tribunal – any signatory on
>> these documents will be confidential and the names of the complainants will
>> not be disclosed to AFRINIC – so there is no risk of victimization here.
>> Any signed copies received by myself shall be held in strictest confidence
>> other than for the purposes of submission to the commission.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please also note – the submission of this petition shall in no way
>> prejudice the right to potential litigation against AFRINIC should
>> companies and individuals feel that such is warranted.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yours Sincerely
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew Alston
>>
>>
>>
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