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[rpd] Last Call Announcement - IPv4 Soft Landing - bis (AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07)

Daniel Yakmut yakmutd at
Fri Dec 15 18:14:48 UTC 2017

I am a bit worried about the harried setting up of the interim appeal
committee. I was asking myself is there a dispute already, and will cause
an appeal. I think we have jump several guns with this proposal.

It has caused some to suspect the process and outcome. We needed to be more
open on our discussions.

On Dec 15, 2017 5:08 PM, "caleb olumuyiwa" <muyiwacaleb at> wrote:

> Many thanks Nishal for last email. You have written well.
> I haven't seen any specific reason why Andrew will predetermine what
> report should or not be sent by the Co-chairs to the Board. The procedure
> posted earlier by Omo was clear enough. With due respect, I personally
> think the attacks the Co-chairs to assume there is no rough consensus  on
> this policy by raising dust and accussing them before a procedural report
> is sent amounts to bullying.
> Additionally, if most members of the community aren'traising issues with
> the last call with there silence, it probably suggest the community is
> favouring the outcome of this policy. Like the adage goes... "Silence means
> consent". If you have issues with it, deal with the appeal committee that
> has been set up for arbitration and conflict resolution.
> AFRINIC PDP is bigger than one individual. We have much to gain from
> respecting laid down procedure.
> Like I always note, we are young folks that has much to learn from the
> community. Kindly do not compound the learning process.
> Caleb Ogundele
> On Dec 15, 2017 11:49 AM, "Nishal Goburdhan" <nishal at>
> wrote:
>> On 15 Dec 2017, at 0:24, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> Correct Owen - the only time the board gets a report is to state that a
>>> policy has passed last call and consensus has been reached and they should
>>> ratify.
>> is there something in the PDP that specifically prevents the co-chairs
>> from sending a report to the board if there is no consensus?
>> according to
>> one of the duties of the co-chairs is:
>> “* Sending a report of the outcomes of policy discussions at public
>> policy meetings to the Board of Directors.”
>> i read that as :
>> * this is what was discussed
>> * this is the outcome (whichever way it goes)
>> so, i don’t agree with the implication in this thread, that there is a
>> pre-determined outcome.  all sami’s mail said was:  “.. the Co-chairs will
>> send the report to the board”.  which i find to be appropriate.  i’m
>> willing to bet, that the co-chairs fully intend to write a short report,
>> whichever way their determination of consensus goes (ie. either yay or nay
>> to the proposal), and *that* is what sami meant.
>> —n.
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