[rpd] Appeal Committee Terms of Reference (Version 1)

[Omo Oaiya]

Without prejudice to Eddy and Ademola's wise counsel, this is an example of
what leads to exchanges that make some say there is toxicity.

For whatever purpose, I see you promoting the so-called factions on a
thread that tries to move us forward.  It is all evident in your choice of
words - "stubbornly cling", "mutual abandonment" "single issue"

In case you do not realise, you continue to personalise what has become a
community document that contains elements of SL-SD and text from other
members of the community.

The jury is still out on your about-face on the claim to have written Alain
Durand's proposal but I followed my gut instincts and trawled through
related discussions on the ARIN list.   I am happy for you to correct me if
I am wrong ...with evidence.

I read that you and others agreed with the Alain Durand's proposal but
nowhere do you propose any text as subsequently claimed.  What I saw in the
related discussions was support for reserving for IPv6 and to look up to 20
years ahead.  Time is bearing this position out.

Mind you, this was in 2008 and the ARIN reserve persists despite the
exhaustion of the free pool and secondary market.  Even if our
circumstances in AfriNIC today were not different, with a similar outlook,
this suggests that we should look forward to another 10 years at least.
This conforms with Alain Durand's further work and every other RIR which
maintains a reserve.

On top of this, you basically agree to the adoption of a previous version
[1] then turn around to champion going back to your "single issue" when an
updated version is put on the list by the Co-chairs.

We have heard your opinion on what AfriNIC should do.  Time to let others
speak and let those who want to move things forward do so.

Merci!

[1] - https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2017/006710.html

On 13 August 2017 at 06:00, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> I think a positive first step towards useful dialog would be for the
> authors of SL-BIS to work with the authors from the other proposal to craft
> a new proposal and abandon SL-BIS as previously agreed. I think with that
> restoration of good faith, it would be much easier to move forward. If they
> continue to stubbornly cling to the existing proposal even after the strong
> showing of support for mutual abandonment and agreement thereto, then I
> think it is that single issue which makes it difficult for one side to
> trust that the other may work with them in good faith to reach resolution.
>
> Owen
>
> On Aug 12, 2017, at 03:58 , Ademola Osindero <ademola at ng.lopworks.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> I very much share Eddy’s sympathy on the deteriorated state of this
> collaboration. We cannot pretend all is fine and expect to move further
> with any proposal. Neither can we venture down the lane of exploring
> sanctions. The community is meant to be an egalitarian society and
> appointed leaders are only chosen to help steer the wheel of affairs.
>
> Like in all conflicts, if we allow this enmity to continue, it will be
> total chaos for Afrinic. I do second the option of calling for an emergency
> resolution meeting to hold either virtually or at a physical location. Let
> us all work together to douse the growing tension. More so, this community
> has grown over the years with several people coming on board. We have to
> learn to listen to divergent views.
>
>
> --
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> On 12 August 2017 at 11:05:28, Eddy Kayihura (ekayihura at gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have to admit it is very sad to see where we have reached at as a
> community.
>
> I have friends from both sides that seems to be at war and I have failed
> to understand what is at stake. Maybe I am not looking hard enough or have
> not searched deep enough.
>
> In a family, when there is conflict and people still do want to keep the
> family fabric alive, people sit down and discuss matters sometimes with
> neutral wise men (and women in our generation).
>
> Do you think there is still a small chance for our community to stay
> united? We don't need to agree on all but should keep the interests of the
> community at heart.
>
> These debates have become so toxic that it is hard to focus on what's
> important. With this bottom up process we don't distribute red cards and
> everyone can add his sauce on the mix (even me with no understanding on the
> discussed topic :-)
>
> I don't think we are a community that can evolve with consensus any more
> since we have allowed these diverging opinions and camps to divide us so
> much. It is no longer what it used to be: "a group of geeks working
> together for the good of the Internet as well as the continent."
>
> My humble proposal is to zoom out a bit and seat at a virtual round table
> with the intention to dilute each sides toxic glass.
>
> Not sure how this would work but hope the wise men and women can know how
> to moderate such debate.
>
> Hoping we still have those wise persons in this community...
>
> My 2 cents...
>
> On Aug 11, 2017 12:20 PM, "Noah" <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 11 Aug 2017 5:23 a.m., "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>
>> I understand why you think these are better, but I will agree to disagree.
>>
>>
>> Owen,
>>
>> The board asked for suggestions and I have shared different options we
>> can explore and I didnt expect you personally to agree with these
>> suggestions even a bit considering your openly biased view point ref: the
>> matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think any of those constructs would result in factional distrust of the
>> outcome of the process.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you please elaborate fully this factional distrust you assume. Dont
>> you think you contribute to it?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Noah
>>
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