[rpd] IPv4 Soft Landing BIS

[Andrew Alston]

Basically, Saul is correct.

Again, most FTTH providers are using a form of "naked" FTTH, as in, they don't control the OLT's and the backend infrastructure.  The IPOE/PPPOE side of things is controlled by a relatively small number of players and they need to v6 enable.

In our case - we are fortunate enough to control not only the fiber, but the OLT's, ONT's and BRAS equipment - basically - we own the infrastructure end to end - making v6 turn up relatively simple.

Yes, they can proxy off the radius authentication to other providers to enable an IPC style environment - but until they actually support V6 across that - things are going to be a problem.  Right now - we need a way to find a way to convince certain companies (who I am resisting naming here) to v6 enable so that v6 can actually happen.  

And here is the thing - denying IP space to anyone - isn't going to help, because it's not the providers getting the v4 address space or being denied the v4 address space that are in the driving seat here - it’s the big providers.  And I know, someone is going to turn around and say, well, use another provider.  Guess what - right now - *NONE* of the providers who have this infrastructure are doing it - so the option isn't really there (yet).

Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Saul Stein [mailto:saul at enetworks.co.za] 
Sent: 07 August 2017 12:05
To: Andre van Zyl <vanzyla at bcxcomms.net>; Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
Cc: rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <rpd at afrinic.net>
Subject: RE: [rpd] IPv4 Soft Landing BIS

Hi Andre,

>They are indeed an ADSL provider, and what you say around DSL in SA is 
>correct. However, they are also a hosting, and an rapidly expanding 
>FTTH operation, and by >your own feedback FTTH is an area where IPv6 
>can be and is successfully deployed.

Sadly this is not true... while there are one or two FTTH companies that can, the big national guys that own the fibre in the ground don’t support it, so the ISPs can't supply it. :-(

Saul