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David Hilario d.hilario at
Tue Jul 25 06:55:16 UTC 2017

Hi Noah,

> Jackson
> Thank you for pointing that out as Owen has this tendency of opposing
> everything.

Stating opinions with arguments for or against is not the same as
opposing everything, and I cannot recall him doing any such things

Unlike "Jackson" and others who have clearly stated they do and will
oppose anything coming from certain folks.

> Will this community only note support and consensus when he supports a
> proposal?

Consensus is again based on reaching the point where most people can
agree that the text is fine, only one sustained opposition is enough
to declare that consensus is not reached and it must be taken under

If one has a sustained valid objection, why should it be ignored and
consensus declared?

There is a tendency to call for and to actually ignore anyone opposing
certain views, this is absolutely wrong.

> He keeps denying supports all times and behaving as he has authority to
> decide.

I didn't perceive it that way, he does state the facts and indeed
reminds certain community members of what the bottom up process is all

I mostly enjoy reading his ideas and comments, they are usually really
well thought out, I do not always agree with what he says, but such is
the way of a community.
We cannot all think and believe the same.

We really should not allow mob rule to take over, even if people call for it.

Can we stop harassing anyone who opposes ones view?
Stating why one opposes something is enough, without having to start
attacking people personally.

Bottom up process and consensus MUST be defended and left in place att all time.
There is an agreed and documented process, there are WG-chairs, they
can respond when addressed and given they have time.

And there is even an appeal process in case we disagree with the WG-chairs.

> Cheers,
> Noah
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