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[rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"

Tutu Ngcaba pan.afrikhan at
Tue Jun 27 11:35:04 UTC 2017

How are you Cheng,

Where you come from.? China maybe?

ok why are you worried of this policy proposal if you did follow the
instructions of the agreement RSA.

why you are fearing if you can give report that the ip address used

anybody who is not done illegals mustn't be afraid of the policy. Maybe you
are not using the IP address the Afrinic given you now you are panicked
that the Afrinic shall review and find out.

maybe you are even using it wrong places or selling the ip address in

I did not see any problem at all if all the companies complied to the
agreement of this RSA as per this Afrinic policy.

Best Regards,
Tutu Ngcaba

On 27 Jun 2017 12:59 p.m., "chenghn at" <chenghn at>

> Dear Co-chairs and community,
> After carefully reading through the arguments put forward, I oppose this
> policy.
> As I cannot see any positive outcome from the policy proposal for any
> organizations that are members of AFRINIC.
> It places AFRINIC ltd in dangerous legal grounds, it contradicts the
> recently approved transfer policy and will cost money and time for all
> involved parties.
> As I cannot see any benefit but only negative impact I would like to
> have my opposition to this policy recorded.
> As a representative from a multi-continental organization having
> business across all the globe, I cannot support a policy that may
> affect network operators and an RIR in a negative way.
> We strive to always operate under the regulations and policies set in
> place, across all the RIRs as should all LIRs involved in their
> various regions, we cooperate with the RIRs upon request for more
> information.
> But this policy leaving things for "better use" to be judged by the
> AFRINIC Ltd is too subjective and cannot be fulfilled.
> Then comes the arbitration process.
> Who will be the arbiters?
> How will they be selected?
> Who will approve them ultimately, AFRINIC or the LIR being Audited?
> What information will be provided to the Arbiters?
> We understand that as part of an Audit, business critical information
> will need to be shared with AFRINIC Ltd, we cannot accept to further
> share that information with third parties selected from the community,
> this would be a breach of confidentiality and involve sharing company
> sensitive information such as customer lists and current network
> strategies with potential competitors.
> AFRINIC Ltd cannot share confidential information provided by its LIR
> to third parties.
> What will AFRINIC do when LIR take them to court and makes claims for
> damages?
> The LIRs may very well decide to take AFRINIC to court in their own
> country, AFRINIC will then need to defend themselves in Cameroon or
> Nigeria, all this will cost a lot of money time and resources from
> AFRINIC Ltd, which we will have to pay for.
> This makes the policy having negative impact not only on the ones
> being reviewed, but on the entire membership as we will all pay for
> these reviews consequences.
> Based on all the above, I again have to state that I formally oppose
> this policy proposal in its current form.
> Best Regards
> Paul Cheng
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