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[rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"

Andrew Alston Andrew.Alston at
Wed Apr 12 04:37:39 UTC 2017

Hi McTim,

While I agree language needs to be unequivocal I also acknowledge that sometimes you use language in a policy as an indication of intent and then request the community to help wordsmith that to come up with language that is mutually acceptable to everyone.

That is what we have done here - we are not under the illusion that our wording is perfect or that we have it totally right - and we know that there are many in this community who can help us tighten this and get the language right, that is what we are asking for here - let us come to mutually acceptable wording and if people feel language is ambiguous let us here suggestions and discuss.

We welcome input and we welcome further co-authors.



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From: McTim <dogwallah at>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 7:04:28 AM
To: Keshwarsingh Nadan
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Subject: Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"


On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Keshwarsingh Nadan <kn at> wrote:
> Moonesawmy
>>In Section 1 of AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01, it is stated that "these
>>shutdowns have been shown to cause economic damage".  Could you
>>please provide some data about the economic damage?
> I confine myself within bounds better suited to my own capacity, perhaps this could help?
>>What is the meaning of "direct provable relationships" in Section 13.1?
> It is my belief that you should unsubscribe from this list since you were unable to understand the basic meaning of whatever you quoted above.

That was fairly rude, SM has a good point, there is lots of room to
fudge on this language.

When we write policy, we should give the hostmasters unequivocal
policy that is not open to interpretation.


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route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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