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[rpd] Report of the Soft Landing isuue
Mark Elkins
mje at posix.co.za
Fri Mar 24 20:46:48 UTC 2017
That's a bit sad.
I've been involved in a number of proposals, both some successful (IPv6
/48, AnyCast) and some not (Inter-regional Transfer - which I withdrew).
I believe that there is a need to re-address some parts of the Soft
Landing Proposal and I'm thick-skinned enough to give this a try.
I believe that proposals since the Soft landing proposal was first
proposed (and that wasn't a quick task) along with what has been learned
by watching other regions and by some of our own proposals will allow
our community to better shape the Soft Landing Proposal to something
that will allow some limited but crucial IPv4 resources to last a fare
bit longer into the future for new entrants into this world of Internet
Addresses.
On 24/03/2017 22:08, Arsène Tungali wrote:
> Hi everyone.
>
> Though we still have 3 days to go (out of the 7 suggested by the
> Co-chairs to hear from the community on their suggestion),
>
> As a newbie in the PDP process, I have the impression that we
> (community) will not be able to move ahead with this work as per the
> wonderful suggestion by co-chairs. If this wonderful idea was
> supported by the community, there should have been someone to take the
> lead (already).
>
> In my opinion, since no one from the community has stepped in to work
> on a merged policy, I would suggest co-chairs to just leave this and
> declare it a dead proposal. There is no interest in working on a
> merged proposal given that original authors were not able to come
> together and produce something as we all agreed in Mauritius. This is
> frustrating and I hope we take lessons from this experience for the
> future.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Arsene
>
> ------------------------
> **Arsène Tungali**
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> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en> & Marrakech
> <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en>).//AFRINIC
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> Freedom.//
>
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>
> 2017-03-22 22:09 GMT+02:00 ALAIN AINA <aalain at trstech.net
> <mailto:aalain at trstech.net>>:
>
>
>
> Dear Community
>
> We thank the co-chairs for the efforts put in managing the soft
> landing update’s process incepted by the 2 policy proposals. We
> also thank the community for the intensive discussions and
> contributions.
>
> We have contributed to the post-Mauritius initiative from the
> co-chairs on this update to the softlanding and remain available
> for any further actions required from us.
>
> We still believe that amending certain aspects of the current
> soft landing policy adopted in 2011, is a good thing to do,
> despite the time wasted and the fact that AFRINIC v4 pool
> showing 1.077 /8 available, which means the soft landing may be
> triggered anytime soon.
>
> We hope that the community has learnt a lot from this process and
> consider the main lesson here to be, the fundamental principle of
> policies/standards' development, which is that when a proposal is
> on the table to address an issue and has been accepted for
> discussion, it becomes community's document, aiming to be improved
> by the community up to adoption, rejection or withdrawal.
>
> Thanks
>
> Softlanding-bis Co-authors
>
>
>
> > On Mar 20, 2017, at 10:24 PM, SamiSalih <sami at ntc.gov.sd
> <mailto:sami at ntc.gov.sd>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear AfriNIC Community,
> > Greetings from the PDWG Co-chairs,
> >
> > Many of you may have followed the proceedings of the two
> conflicting proposals addressing IPv4 exhaustion.
> >
> > At the last meeting in Mauritius, authors of both IPv4 run-out
> management proposals agreed to consider working together to
> develop an improved proposal.
> > We regret to inform you that despite several efforts, both
> groups of authors were unable to collaborate towards a joint solution.
> >
> > As that process is deadlocked, the co-chairs have put together
> some of the major points in discussions raised over multiple
> meetings and mailing list discussions. Because the community has
> made many valid observations on improvements that could be made to
> the status quo, we hereby suggest that these be assessed by the
> community with a view to presenting a proposal that better manages
> the exhaustion of IPv4 resources.
> >
> > Some examples of recommended improvements include consideration
> for new entrants, IPv6 transition provisions, and repurposing of
> reserves for the "unforeseen".
> >
> > To avoid entering a loop similar to what we recently
> encountered, there is a need to concentrate our efforts on a joint
> solution. Can we discuss and let the co-chairs assist with the
> draft of a proposal that contains only areas that have rough
> consensus?
> >
> > If there are areas on which consensus cannot be reasonably
> reached, those can be left out of the policy update proposal.
> Although the resulting proposal may be treated under the emergency
> provisions of the PDP due to time sensitivity of the subject
> matter, the ideal situation would be for the draft update to be
> received before the next PPM.
> >
> > Although the PDP does not expressly require the above, we trust
> that all community members will be reasonable and work together
> constructively rather than seek to frustrate any efforts that do
> not align with their viewpoints.
> >
> > The extracts from discussions till date are at
> https://goo.gl/AWCCWd and we would like to receive feedback and
> suggestions from the community
> > over the next 7 days.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > AfiNIC PDP Co-chairs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr. Sami Salih | Assistant Professor
> > Sudan University of Science and Technology
> > Eastern Dum, P.O Box 11111-407
> > email: sami.salih at sustech.edu <mailto:sami.salih at sustech.edu>
> > Mob: +249122045707 <tel:%2B249122045707>
> >
> >
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