[rpd] Re: rpd Digest, Vol 96, Issue 19

Sat Sep 20 13:24:52 UTC 2014

Its quite disheartening when reading certain comments on the mailing list. Its through this mailing that all is well informed about the consumption of the African Network Information Centre (AfriNIC) resources. if for whatsoever reason you are investing in Africa its probably because you have seen prospects. I beg to differ.

Below is a message from About us on http://www.afrinic.net/en/about-us 
"The African Network Information Center (AFRINIC) is the Regional Internet Registry (RIR) for Africa, responsible for the distribution and management of Internet number resources such as IP addresses and ASN (Autonomous System Numbers) for the African region. 

AFRINIC’s mission is to provide professional and efficient distribution of Internet number resources to the African Internet community, to support Internet technology usage and development across the continent and to strengthen Internet self-governance in Africa by encouraging a participatory policy development. 

The allocation of the Internet address space is primarily carried out by the IANA (Internet Assigned Name Authority) under a contract with ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers). IANA allocates IP address blocks to RIRs (Regional Internet Registries) which have the authority to re-allocate them within their respective geographical areas (of continental scope). 

There are four other RIRs worldwide: RIPE-NCC (serving Europe and surrounding areas), APNIC (serving Asia and Pacific region), ARIN (serving North America) and LACNIC(serving Latin America and the Caribbean)."

If for any other reason there are prospects for investors then there are more available resources that can be acquired from the respective RIR. We will refer Mr Lu and team to take resources from APNIC for the business or investment proposed in Africa. 

Again if the resource can be hosted anywhere irrespective then that should also be done with resources from APNIC not necessarily AfiNIC as inferred by Phil.

AfriNIC is for serving the African Sub Region not otherwise.

Doing anything else contrary is defying the mission, vision and purpose of AfriNIC for the African Sub Region. If our trusted management is doing something contrary like allocating our few resources to members of ORG that does not meet the objectives of AfriNIC, We the kind people of Africa besiege thee to avert that decision and save the future of our next generation tech-preneurs.

Truly African.

Ata Redeemer.

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    1. Re: [afnog] [rpd] Re: A typical case of
 abuse of our
       resources!!! (Sunday Folayan)
    2. Re: [afnog] [rpd] Re: A typical case of
 abuse of our
       resources!!! (Sunday Folayan)
    3. Re: [afnog] A typical case of abuse of
 our resources!!!
       (Omo Oaiya)
    4. Re: [afnog] [rpd] Re: A typical case of
 abuse of our
       resources!!! (Omo Oaiya)

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 Message: 1
 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 06:42:52 +0100
 From: Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com>
 Subject: Re: [afnog] [rpd] Re: A typical case of abuse of
 our
     resources!!!
 To: McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com>,
 Kofi ANSA AKUFO <kofi.ansa at gmail.com>
 Cc: AfriNIC Resource Policy <rpd at afrinic.net>
 Message-ID: <541D13DC.80805 at gmail.com>
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 +1.

 Sunday.

 On 19/09/2014 20:44, McTim wrote:
 > <cc list trimmed>
 > 
 > 
 > right, so if we want a policy that prevents people from
 using 
 > resources for spamming or other purposes we don't like,
 we have to 
 > write those policies.
 > 
 > Hostmasters (IP Resource Analysts) can only do what we
 tell them to
 > do in policy.
 > 
 > So write a policy that does what you want, and we will
 discuss.
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Kofi ANSA AKUFO
 > <kofi.ansa at gmail.com>
 wrote:
 >> Come folks
 >> 
 >> Lets get serious this a policy discussion list and
 issues
 >> concerning policy implementation.
 >> 
 >> Lets not troll or divert discussions if we cant
 come out straight
 >> with answers to questions.
 >> 
 >> 
 >> On 19 September 2014 23:01, Stephen Wilcox
 >> <steve.wilcox at ixreach.com>
 wrote:
 >>> 
 >>> Surely its ASN24?
 >>> 
 >>> On 19 September 2014 20:01, Sunday Folayan
 <sfolayan at gmail.com>
 >>> wrote:
 >>>> 
 > Does anyone have Jack Bauer's AS number?
 > 
 > AfriNIC may need him soon.
 > 
 > Sunday.
 > 
 > 
 > On 19/09/2014 19:54, Keshwarsingh Nadan wrote:
 >>>>>> Hey Steve,
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> I understand not naming
 individuals or being too
 >>>>>>> specific but can you describe
 the circumstances?
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> I really wish I could describe the
 circumstances whilst
 >>>>>> writing this.. Unfortunately, any
 wordings wrongly
 >>>>>> interpreted can be used against me.
 Legal professionals
 >>>>>> are assembling every chunks
 together, we will publish
 >>>>>> that soon, arrests have been
 forecasted.
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Another so called *not for profit*
 organization is
 >>>>>> involved as well.
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> This would be the first
 instance of anything even
 >>>>>>> remotely like this I've heard
 of, and I'm wondering how
 >>>>>>> such a thing is possible and
 what else is out there.
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Many others will be out.
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Regarding "the right moment and
 venue" .. I hope this
 >>>>>>> is for good reasons and not to
 hold anything back for
 >>>>>>> personal gain else we're
 creating a cycle..
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Nothing personal, that would be for
 the best interest of
 >>>>>> everyone.
 >>>>>> 
 > 
 > 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> -- Director / Founder IX Reach Ltd E: steve.wilcox at ixreach.com

 >>> M: +44 7966 048633 Tempus Court, Bellfield
 Road, High Wycombe,
 >>> HP13 5HA, UK.
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> _______________________________________________
 afnog mailing
 >> list http://afnog.org/mailman/listinfo/afnog
 > 
 > 
 > 

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 Message: 2
 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 06:58:37 +0100
 From: Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com>
 Subject: Re: [afnog] [rpd] Re: A typical case of abuse of
 our
     resources!!!
 To: Omo Oaiya <omo at wacren.net>
 Cc: AfriNIC Discuss <members-discuss at afrinic.net>,   
 "AfriNIC RPD
     MList." <rpd at afrinic.net>,
 AFNOG <afnog at afnog.org>
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 On 19/09/2014 20:32, Omo Oaiya wrote:
 >>> On 19 September 2014 20:20, Sunday Folayan
 <sfolayan at gmail.com>
 >>> wrote:
 >> 
 >> It has been discussed by the community and the
 hostmasters 
 >> already responded publicly to the community in
 Djibouti.
 >> 
 >> Kindly issue them a "certificate of your
 understanding", as soon 
 >> as possible.
 > 
 > Kindly point out which slide answers which question so
 we can
 > bring this to a quick conclusion.

 Come on ... Omo!

 Slides of presentation do not answer questions. It is the
 discussions
 and the comments of staff at question time, that answers
 them.

 If you can spend some nollywood time on the below
 policywood, you are
 done.

 http://www.duniamedia.ch/ais2014/vod_en/p_4_2.php
 http://www.duniamedia.ch/ais2014/vod_en/p_4_3.php
 http://www.duniamedia.ch/ais2014/vod_en/p_4_4.php

 Sunday.
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 Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:45:19 +0000
 From: Omo Oaiya <omo at datasphir.com>
 Subject: Re: [rpd] [afnog] A typical case of abuse of our
 resources!!!
 To: Lu Heng <h.lu at anytimechinese.com>
 Cc: "afnog at afnog.org"
 <afnog at afnog.org>,   
 AfriNIC Discuss
     <members-discuss at afrinic.net>,   
 AfriNIC Resource Policy
     <rpd at afrinic.net>,   
 Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
 Message-ID:

 <CAG1eoi0VcX2kbaK7rhQUVPo7dEhxEuTCDwkDXv4VKUU1P=v9VQ at mail.gmail.com>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

 On 20 September 2014 00:37, Lu Heng <h.lu at anytimechinese.com>
 wrote:

 > Hi
 >
 > This is policy mailing list not law enforcement mailing
 list,  if there is
 > something legally wrong, it is up to local law
 enforcement to act but not
 > any one here on the list. and this is a mailing for
 policy but not
 > nationalism, I am very much surprised one of the board
 member here direct
 > ask to break policy in order to "save the continent",
 in which there is
 > nothing to save from as seems there is no resource
 being taking outside of
 > the continent.
 >
 > because our range has been mentioned since beginning of
 the discussion,
 > let me make things clear once for all:
 >
 > 1. the resource we take are using in africa.
 >
 > 2. we are investing in africa.
 >
 > If anyone want to make more accusation on us please do
 provide evidence
 > otherwise we see it as public defamation.
 >
 >
 Mr Lu,

 Perhaps you can enrich the discussion on utilisation of IPs
 with an answer
 to this question raised earlier

  On 19 September 2014 12:59, Stephen Wilcox <steve.wilcox at ixreach.com>
  wrote:

 > Hi Lu,
 >  out of interest regarding the utilisation of IPs,
 why are you using one
 > IP per DNS host ( http://bgp.he.net/net/154.87.0.0/16#_dns
 ) and many of
 > these domains look like random letters and have no
 website eg
 > http://ydxwsl.com/
 >
 >
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 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:02:22 +0000
 From: Omo Oaiya <omo at wacren.net>
 Subject: Re: [afnog] [rpd] Re: A typical case of abuse of
 our
     resources!!!
 To: Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com>
 Cc: AfriNIC Discuss <members-discuss at afrinic.net>,   
 "AfriNIC RPD
     MList." <rpd at afrinic.net>,
 AFNOG <afnog at afnog.org>
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 On 20 September 2014 05:58, Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com>
 wrote:

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 > On 19/09/2014 20:32, Omo Oaiya wrote:
 > >>> On 19 September 2014 20:20, Sunday Folayan
 <sfolayan at gmail.com>
 > >>> wrote:
 > >>
 > >> It has been discussed by the community and the
 hostmasters
 > >> already responded publicly to the community in
 Djibouti.
 > >>
 > >> Kindly issue them a "certificate of your
 understanding", as soon
 > >> as possible.
 > >
 > > Kindly point out which slide answers which
 question so we can
 > > bring this to a quick conclusion.
 >
 > Come on ... Omo!
 >
 > Slides of presentation do not answer questions. It is
 the discussions
 > and the comments of staff at question time, that
 answers them.
 >

 Sunday,

 Staff specifically said they would get back to me.  Can
 you be more
 specific?

 > If you can spend some nollywood time on the below
 policywood, you are
 > done.
 >
 > http://www.duniamedia.ch/ais2014/vod_en/p_4_2.php
 > http://www.duniamedia.ch/ais2014/vod_en/p_4_3.php
 > http://www.duniamedia.ch/ais2014/vod_en/p_4_4.php
 >
 >
  Red herring.

 Omo
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