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[rpd] Re: [afnog] A typical case of abuse of our resources!!!

Stephen Wilcox steve.wilcox at
Wed Sep 17 15:38:33 UTC 2014

On 17 September 2014 16:15, Daniel Kofi ANSA AKUFO <kofi.ansa at>

> On 17 September 2014 18:16, Phil Regnauld <regnauld at> wrote:
>> Daniel Kofi ANSA AKUFO (kofi.ansa) writes:
>> >
>> > I don't have an issue where IPs are used but my concern is when huge
>> > resources in the order of /12 are issued to virtual ORGs and they tend
>> to
>> > abuse it for spamming and other activities. A typical example is the /16
>> > block which was issued as part of /12 to an ORG last year.
>> >
>> >
>>         For reference:
>>         Things vary on a case by case basis, but in this particular one,
>> there
>>         is supporting evidence that the blocks in question are being
>> announced.
>>         How much of it is allocated to real services is unknown, but
>> first we'd
>>         have to agree on a definition of "wasting the resources".
> Phil
> In IMHO it is not about how much is announced or even where ... but how
> much of the content served using these resources is beneficial to the
> service region the IPs were assigned ...
> Nevertheless the fact remains these virtual ORGs manage to secure such
> blocks due to the selfish corrupt practices of a few.
> A lot of questions to be asked
> Are the RIRs so much in need of revenue? Are the potential members and
> ORGs not consuming the resources? Are there double standards? Do the so
> called management who want to sign off on these allocations have their own
> processes?

It is not the job of the RIRs to decide if a business is beneficial or how
valuable the LIR is.

However, it is the job of the RIR to make sure that claims are genuine and
that the IPs are being actually used on real equipment for an actual
purpose. I can see many ways in which an ORG might use multiple RIRs and
fake applications to obtain a lot more address than the policy states. But
once this is discovered the RIRs should reevaluate and if a past
application is deemed fake/dishonest consider revoking the address block.

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