[rpd] A typical conversation with a service provider on v6

Mon Jun 16 06:46:18 UTC 2014

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On 16 Jun 2014 09:28, "Adam Nelson" <adam at varud.com> wrote:

> The big problem, and this is not an Afrinic problem but it is an African
> Internet problem, is that there is no list of ISPs showing which ones run
> IPv4 only and which are dual stack.  Or does one exist?
>
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> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps this could help improve that conversation:
>>
>> Dear other data center customer,
>>
>> We would be very happy to host your servers in our datacenter or provide
>> you with the server resources you require. All of our servers and network
>> connections support full native dual-stack IPv4 and IPv6 and all of our
>> backbone network and peering locations are also full dual stack.
>>
>> IPv6 is an official protocol and is widely supported. We are happy to
>> help lead in that support and welcome your business.
>>
>> A. Concerned Staffer
>> Better Hosting Company
>>
>>
>> Customer
>> Hello,
>>
>> Since I am no longer able to reach the entire internet, but only the old
>> internet using your services, I will be moving my application out of
>> your datacenter and onto a platform that can provide me complete
>> dual-stack connectivity. It is my belief that your failure to maintain
>> adequate
>> connectivity to the entire modern internet is a material adverse breech
>> of the services promised and therefore, I consider you have voided
>> any obligation to my contract term. Please consider this a 30 day notice
>> of my intent to vacate your datacenter due to this breech.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> I'll leave the rest of the conversation to your imagination.
>>
>> Though I don't know specific names of any such companies in Africa, I
>> would hope that they do exist. Globally, I can point to:
>>
>> Hurricane Electric
>>  Linode
>> SoftLayer
>>
>> As prominently supporting IPv6 in their datacenters and hosting products.
>>  I'm sure there are others, but these are the ones I know directly are
>> definitely supporting IPv6.
>>
>> Apologies if anyone thinks this is a commercial announcement. It is not
>> intended as such. It is intended to help inform the community so that they
>> can vote with their Franks/Dinars/Dollars/Rupies/etc. and their feet.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2014, at 12:29 , Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Below is a typical interaction with a well known hosting provider.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>> Customer
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I like to know if you now support v6 as i want my server to be reachable
>>> on ipv6 address
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>
>> Response:
>>
>>> Hello Seun,
>>>
>>> Thank you for contacting "provider" HelpDesk.
>>>
>>> All of our servers are IPv6 ready however almost all of the servers,
>>> routers, network carriers etc. still use IPv4 and we also currently use
>>> IPv4. As soon as IPv6 protocol is launched globally we will also switch our
>>> networks to use IPv6.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>
>> Customer
>>
>>> Hello "support",
>>>
>>> Why switch, why not run dual stack. There are increasing number of
>>> provider offering v6 and i think "provider" should talk to their upstream
>>> provider to do the same ASAP!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> Response
>>
>>> I am afraid that at the moment we do not support such dual stack and we
>>> provide IPv4 only. As soon as IPv6 becomes an official protocol we will
>>> switch to it immediately.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Customer
>>
>>> Hello "support",
>>>
>>> I don't understand what you mean by v6 becoming official protocol? there
>>> are several RFC on v6 and several networks running v6. How much official
>>> does it need to be before "provider" start running it. What makes it
>>> official by the way?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>
>>
>> response:
>>
>>> Seun,
>>>
>>> I spoke with our administrators and they told me that they can try to
>>> setup IPv6 address on yuor server. I am forwarding the case to our system
>>> administrators. Please allow them some time to check the case and try to
>>> setup IPv6 address.
>>>
>>> We will post an reply as soon as we have more information.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>
>> customer:
>>
>>> Hello "support",
>>>
>>> Thanks and please take note that i am not switching to v6, i want my
>>> server to be accessible on both v4 and v6
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>
>> response:
>>
>>> Our datacented is in the process of implementing IPv6 but the project is
>>> still ongoing and they can not provide an ETA for the completion. We can
>>> not currently provide IPv6 connectivity to your server.
>>>
>>> If you need any further assistance, please, do not hesitate to contact
>>> us again by posting a new ticket in the appropriate Help Desk category.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>
>> customer:
>>
>>> Hello "support1",
>>>
>>> I am not sure i understand this response. "support" had indicated that
>>> they may be able to provide me v6 connection. Now you are saying you can't?
>>> kindly note that we have a dedicated server with you. I don't see the
>>> reason why "provider" cannot ensure that our content is accessed on both v4
>>> and v6 network.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>
>> response:
>>
>>> The key here is in the "may" that "support" wrote. He checked the case
>>> with our system administrators and they discussed it with the datacenter
>>> technicials. The reason why we can not provide IPv6 connectivity, even
>>> though you are on a Dedicated server is that the entire network
>>> infrastructure should allow IPv6 throughput. As I explained, the datacenter
>>> is working on such a project but they can not provide an ETA for it.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>
>>  Cheers!
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Seun Ojedeji,Federal University Oye-Ekitiweb:
>> http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng/> Mobile: +2348035233535**alt
>> email: <http://goog_1872880453/>seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng
>> <seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng>*
>>
>> The key to understanding is humility - my view !
>>
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