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[AFRINIC-rpd] Commencement of the last call

Andrew Alston alston.networks at
Wed Jun 26 09:27:16 UTC 2013

Thanks Maye,

I sent that privately but as I said in it, you are welcome to share my
concerns with the list.

I stand by what I have said there, that I do not understand your motives,
and that I believe strongly that this policy is in the best interests of the
African continent as a whole and that is what I fight for.  And I hope that
we are NOT seeing a divide such as what this is beginning to look like


From:  Maye Diop <mayediop at>
Date:  Wednesday 26 June 2013 11:19 AM
To:  rpd <rpd at>
Subject:  Fwd: [AFRINIC-rpd] Commencement of the last call

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From: Andrew Alston <alston.networks at>
Date: 2013/6/26
Subject: Re: [AFRINIC-rpd] Commencement of the last call
To: Maye Diop <mayediop at>

Sent off listŠ your decision to take it back to the list or notŠ.

; ii) his focus on south region without any provision of equity;

Is this the REAL reason for your opposition?  Not on technical grounds, not
on financial grounds, not on any other grounds, but because you oppose
something that is not coming out of your own region?  Even though we have
shown and demonstrated that it will benefit your own region more than the
Southern or Eastern regions?  I am now openly asking you, is this a
geo-political issue or a language issue or a racial issue?   Because if that
is the case, I would be extremely saddened to find that Africa once again
cannot work together because of prejudice based on location, ethnicity,
language, tribal association or any other.

I believe, strongly, that this policy is in the benefit of the continent as
a whole, and I might point out, I actually spend VERY little time in the
southern region these days, most of my work is with the commercials in East
Africa, though I was involved in actively supporting and fighting for the
IPv6 task force in Senegal, have presented in Ghana, have spent time in
Gambia, and have always demonstrated throughout my career that my focus has
been Africa centric rather then South Africa centric.

However, your statements and your views come across to me, and others who
have expressed this view to me, as being extremely guided by issues that are
not actually related to the policy and I question those motives (and am
quite prepared to debate that on list if you so choose)


2013/6/26 Alan Barrett <apb at>
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2013, Badru Ntege wrote:
>> There is nothing stoping this institution now using the resources to set up a
>> local for profit ISP, or even passing these resources to a third party that
>> will take them off the continent.
> See the existing IPv4 allocation policy, AFPUB-2005-V4-001, section 9.5:
> "   9.5 Validity of an assignment
> "
> "   Assignments remain valid as long as the original criteria
> "   on which the assignment was based are still in place and
> "   the assignment is registered in the AFRINIC database. An
> "   assignment is therefore invalid if it is not registered in the
> "   database and if the purpose for which it was registered has
> "   changed or no longer holds.
> An attempt to transfer of resources clearly invalidates the assignment under
> clause 9.4 of AFPUB-2005-V4-001.  I would argue that a mission change on the
> part of the organisation (such as serving as a for-profit ISP), would also
> invalidate the assignment under that clause.
> --apb (Alan Barrett)
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Mme Ndéye Maimouna DIOP
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