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[AFRINIC-rpd] PDP discussions

Andrew Alston alston.networks at
Tue Jun 25 20:27:51 UTC 2013

Actually Owen, 

I disagree, the policy in no way asks for discount, the policy says that a
discount that is current applies.  If no such discount is current as per the
board decisions on such, it will not apply.  This was made clear in the
meeting when you were not present.

At the moment at board discretion, a 50% discount applies to academia, the
policy merely maintains that discount.  If that discount were to be revoked,
there would be no discount for that clause in the policy to apply to and no
discount would be applied.

We openly said in the presentation about this policy at the meeting that we
were not interested in dealing with the financial aspects since those are
not the remit of the PDP, but rather the remit of the board. And we stated
this extremely clearly.


From:  Owen DeLong <owen at>
Date:  Tuesday 25 June 2013 10:18 PM
To:  Andrew Alston <alston.networks at>
Cc:  Maye Diop <mayediop at>, rpd <rpd at>, Alan Barrett
<apb at>
Subject:  Re: [AFRINIC-rpd] PDP discussions

On Jun 24, 2013, at 03:08 , Andrew Alston <alston.networks at> wrote:

> Hi Maye,
> I do not understand how you can claim this is depriving AfriNIC of its
> revenues.  Let us look at some hard facts.
> Firstly, annual fees and application fees will still apply to any applications
> made under this policy, the policy does not change the fee structure in any
> way shape or form.  Secondly, irrespective of if the space is used under this
> policy or by other organisations, the money is still coming in.  The current
> revenues generated by already existent applications will also keep flowing.

You cannot have it both ways, Andrew. You can not argue on one hand that
Academic institutions should receive a discount and special treatment that
makes them end-users when they are conducting themselves in a manner that
looks very much like an LIR and on the other had claim that doing so has no
impact to revenues.

I'm neutral as to the policy and I do not believe it will do significant
fiscal damage to AfriNIC, but your argument above is an insult to the
intellect of the reader.


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