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[AFRINIC-rpd] Academic IPv4 Allocation Policy Second Draft (AFPUB-2013-GEN-001-DRAFT-02)

Seun Ojedeji seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
Sat Jan 26 11:25:38 UTC 2013


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On Jan 26, 2013 12:16 PM, "Mark Elkins" <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:

> Lets look at a non university example.
>
> IGF Baku.
>
> Attendance was above that expected - around 1500 to 2000 people.
> On the pre-opening day, there were however only 500 people- and the WIFI
> worked fine.
>
> I think the organisers banked on about 1000 people - and they had a /22
> available.
>
> This they eventually changed to a /21.
>
> There were still problems.
>
> I had both a Laptop, Cell phone and iPad with me. My cell phone has
> WhatsApp on it. I do roam but International Data roaming is very
> expensive, so I just allow my phone to use the local Wifi. (Even at
> home, I keep the Wifi on, software updates can really eat into a 3G data
> bundle).
> Whilst in meetings, I usually use my Laptop, but the Apple iPad is on
> (despite the screen being blank - etc). So most of the time I am using
> three IP addresses. I don't consider myself to be particularly unusual.
> For example, so many people have more than one cell phone.
>
>
> On Sat, 2013-01-26 at 01:07 -0800, SM wrote:
> > Hi Badru,
> > At 20:18 25-01-2013, Badru Ntege wrote:
> > >The statistics are showing the demand for the urban institutions
> > >with the financial resources to build a network that can support
> > >this demand and thus the need to have an idea of the network.  But
> > >out in the real world not all academic institutions have the
> > >resources to build such networks.
> > >
> > >which is why it is a good idea to have an understanding of the
> > >network size.  if we go by institutional population we might be
> > >introducing a major flaw.
> >
> > I'll try and restate what you said in the first
> > paragraph.  University A and B each have 10,000 persons.   University
> > A has the resources to build a network to service these 10,000
> > persons.  University B does not have the resources to build a network
> > to service these 10,000 persons.  If I use population count as a
> > measure I would be giving 50,000 IP addresses to University A and
> > 50,000 IP addresses University B.
> >
> > University B is using 5,000 IP addresses only and 45,000 IP addresses
> > are not utilized.  The amount of free IP addresses for the region
> > reaches a level where I cannot provide IP addresses to University C
> > which has a population of 5,000 persons.  Somebody points out that
> > there are 45,000 IP addresses not being utilized at University B.  I
> > cannot do anything about it.
>
> I'd consider allowing a University to state what ratio they'd like to
> use. (1:1, 3:1, 5:1) - but for now nothing higher than 5:1 unless they
> can provide additional justification. I'd be surprised if universities
> did not go for a higher ratio, they may pay more though - and I do
> believe that the future is multiple devices.
>
> I wouldn't worry about a non-utilisation problem - unless we suddenly
> here of that University trying to sell unused IP's.
>
> > The questions are:
> >
> >   (a) Should I fix the non-utilization problem?
> >
> >   (b) Is it possible for me to fix the non-utilization problem?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > -sm
> >
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