[AFRINIC-rpd] Academic IPv4 Allocation Policy Second Draft (AFPUB-2013-GEN-001-DRAFT-02)

[Andrew Alston]

Hi Nii,

Sorry Nii, but I object to this, strongly.  It is NOT AfriNIC's job to be IP
police.  If I can concretely demonstrate that I am using the IP addresses,
and that I have sufficient hardware and resources to use them, that should
be sufficient.  My network designs, what hardware I use, who I buy it from
etc, are NONE of AfriNIC's business.

Aside from which, how many times do I have to say this, *the designs were
submitted, the documentation was submitted, the proof of purchase was
submitted, the whole lot*

I can point to other instances, where AfriNIC has point blank refused to
accept open tender documents based on fixed designs as justification for IP
space, demanding that people show proof of EXISTENT hardware to get space,
which is bizarre, it means you have to spend potentially millions on
hardware that you have no guarantees you can address. It's a chicken before
the egg situation, buy the hardware, wait through the entire procurement
cycle, do IP planning against hardware you don't have yet, and on IP ranges
you can't predict, and once you've done that, sit for 6 weeks waiting for IP
addresses you may or may not be granted dependent on if AfriNIC decides they
feel your network design fits their standards...

Sorry, that's not the job of an RIR, the job of an RIR is to allocate space
to people who can use it and make it routable, and that in my view is their
sole responsibility as far as allocation goes.

Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: Nii Narku Quaynor [mailto:quaynor at ghana.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:34 PM
To: Andrew Alston
Cc: Owen DeLong; AfriNIC List
Subject: Re: [AFRINIC-rpd] Academic IPv4 Allocation Policy Second Draft
(AFPUB-2013-GEN-001-DRAFT-02)



On Jan 25, 2013, at 20:29, "Andrew Alston" <alston.networks at gmail.com>
wrote:

> .
> 
> We are offering here to make this a criteria that can be demonstrated 
> through national, auditable records since University student counts 
> particularly at public institutions are audited.  It is beyond dispute.
> 
I don't want this. I'll rather audit your network and plans

> Andrew
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nii Narku Quaynor [mailto:quaynor at ghana.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:27 PM
> To: Andrew Alston
> Cc: Owen DeLong; AfriNIC List
> Subject: Re: [AFRINIC-rpd] Academic IPv4 Allocation Policy Second 
> Draft
> (AFPUB-2013-GEN-001-DRAFT-02)
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 25, 2013, at 20:01, "Andrew Alston" <alston.networks at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Nii,
>> 
>> We tried the network plan route... unfortunately it's been proven not 
>> to work and to be highly subjective when it comes to evaluation.
>> 
> A campuses need and have network plan, so...If one needs 5 it will 
> show in your network plan. Perhaps afrinic provide faster track 
> processing but can't get away from having to diligently show what you 
> are using to build networks
> 
>