[AfriNIC-rpd] NomCom at AFRINIC-16

[Andrew Alston]

I have to agree with Badru here, and I have seen challenges solved in similar ways in other companies.  One such example is where a particular country law required a certain company to have a number of directors within the country it was founded.  This wasn't an option, but the law didn't have the same requirement if the company was founded as a trust rather than the other option.  So simple, change how the company is registered to find laws that actually allowed the mandate to be carried out.

I don't think we are as bound by Mauritian law as we believe, if its not working for us as a community, the community can ask for a change.  (Note, I am NOT advocating using this rather drastic method, I'm just saying that we have that option should we ever choose to exercise it)

Andrew

On 23 May 2012, at 2:12 PM, Badru Ntege wrote:

> McTim
> 
> AfriNIC is a regional body serving the entire African region.  I think if
> the membership all agree on a policy like e-voting which at the time they
> believe is in the best interest of the community and we have a jurisdiction
> problem,  I know they can be over 52 other ways to fix that challenge.  We
> should not allow country specific issues to obstruct the mandate of AfriNIC.
> 
> On the issue of e-voting my view is we pursue a parallel implementation for
> at least two future elections before completely eliminating the paper
> process.    This will allow all of  us of to be comfortable with the
> transition and also make sure we have not left members behind in our quest
> to modernize.   
> 
> regards
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rpd-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:rpd-bounces at afrinic.net] On Behalf
>> Of McTim
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:42 PM
>> To: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] NomCom at AFRINIC-16
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> I think we need Ashok, our legal counsel to weigh in here, so I have cc:ed
> him.
>> 
>> My question to Ashok is:
>> 
>> Does MU law prohibit us from using e-voting only?  In other words, does MU
>> law insist on physical proxies, or can we use e-proxies/e-voting only?
>> 
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> McTim
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
>> indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:19 AM, ALAIN AINA <aalain at trstech.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Andrew Alston wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> The simple fact in my view is that sadly, what is broken goes beyond
>>> the simple rules and bylaws.  Yes, the bylaws and rules need to be
>>> changes to avoid the abuse of loopholes which allow people to act
>>> outside of the will of the community, and I hope to see this happen.
>>> But more to the point, what I saw in Gambia was a huge amount of
>>> factionalization and large political undercurrents that distract from
> the real
>> issues.
>>> 
>>> Until we fix this people will continue to attempt to use the political
>>> process to advance their own agendas. The sad fact is, fixing the
>>> rules should be the easy part, fixing the various factions is far
> harder.
>>> 
>>> With regards to the bylaws though, I looked a minute ago at the
>>> submitted comments on the bylaw revisions and with all this debate
>>> going on, was shocked to find that there were only two submitted
>> comments, both mine!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You will see more soon and before the deadlines and we will keep a
>>> close eyes on the next step for the bylaw revision
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> --Alain
>>> 
>>> The PDP list has become far more active since Dar Es Salaam but when
>>> there is a call for comments on the bylaws and there are no comments,
>>> I once again worry about community involvement. It is well and good
>>> for all of us, myself included, to sit here and state the problems,
>>> but if we don't submit comments through the right channels nothing will
>> change!
>>> 
>>> I therefore appeal to you all to please let your voices be heard, lets
>>> fix the rules and at the same time work on working together as a
>>> community on the real business of AfriNIC.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> P.S sorry for any typos and formatting errors, enabling from a phone
>>> is a pain!
>>> 
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