[AfriNIC-rpd] Call for policy proposals and/or issues on AfriNIC PDP for AfriNIC-16

Thu Feb 23 06:38:03 UTC 2012

Thank you Walu for your very clear explanation and Thanks Adamou for Its
question.

Best regards.

De : rpd-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:rpd-bounces at afrinic.net] De la part de
Walubengo J
Envoyé : mercredi 22 février 2012 18:57
À : rpd at afrinic.net; Nacer Adamou Saidou
Objet : Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] Call for policy proposals and/or issues on AfriNIC
PDP for AfriNIC-16

@ Adamou,

in practice Policies tend to have either a global or regional objective - by
design..  E.g Policy describing the minimum block of IPs for distribution in
Africa is so local that it need not be the same as that of Europe.  A
globally oriented policy maybe like a Policy attempt to describe what to do
with legacy IPs in light of the diminishing IPv4 - trying to do this locally
is possibly, but doing it globally is better (and more effective).

So in my view, if a global policy has been rejected - it makes no sense
trying to accept it locally/regionally since it's original intention must
have been "global" - by design.  And I think this make our work easier -
just add one clause in the existing PDP framework to simply "park" locally
created global policies that failed to meet global acceptance.

walu.

--- On Wed, 2/22/12, Nacer Adamou Saidou <adamou.nacer at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Nacer Adamou Saidou <adamou.nacer at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] Call for policy proposals and/or issues on
AfriNIC PDP for AfriNIC-16
To: rpd at afrinic.net
Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 11:18 AM

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Hi all,
I really need to understand what problem we are trying to solve. For me,
if a policy is approved ifrom the AfriNIC community, that means that
that policy is the answer to an issue from the AfriNIC community, issue
that may not appears the same way in other communities.
So why do we want to treat differently globally approved policies from
those approved only by our community? What added value can we expect
from that?

Regards

Le 21/02/2012 19:49, Badru Ntege a écrit :
> Could it be that if it is not accepted in all regions it ceases to be a
> global policy and reverts to a regional policy.  
> 
> Or do we need a policy to handle this situation ??  
> 
> maybe the policy should return to the PDP for review 
> 
> how is this handled in other regions ?? 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rpd-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:rpd-bounces at afrinic.net] On Behalf
>> Of McTim
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 6:22 PM
>> To: Douglas Onyango
>> Cc: rpd at afrinic.net
>> Subject: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] Call for policy proposals and/or issues on
> AfriNIC
>> PDP for AfriNIC-16
>>
>> Hi Douglas,
>>
>> On 2/21/12, Douglas Onyango <ondouglas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Paulos et al,
>>> I think there is a unique issue with the way our current PDP treats
>>> global policies after they get "approved" in our region and fail in
>>> other regions.
>>>
>>> (afrinic.net/docs/policies/AFPUB-2009-v4-002.htm) is a prime example
>>> of what I am talking about. This Policy is marked "abandoned" on the
>>> ASO website (aso.icann.org/global-policy-proposals), but continues to
>>> have the status of "Approved" on the AfriNIC website.
>>>
>>
>> Probably because we approved it?  ;-)
>>
>>> I think that we should find away of resting these Global policies in a
>>> way that conforms to the Global PDP
>>>
>>> A sample solution could be for the policy's status to change to
>>> "Expired" or something else if the Global status of the policy move in
>>> the "rejected" or "abandoned" direction.
>>
>> "something else" I think, as policy proposals expire if they are not
> approved.
>>
>>
>> So we need to find a word that means  "approved in region but not
globally
>> accepted".
>>
>>  I admit that word is not coming to mind immediately ;-/
>>
>>>
>>> I haven't thought this through, but since you asked for suggestions
>>> and the like, I thought i would start this discussion.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> McTim
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
>> indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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