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[AfriNIC-rpd] Updated Version of the "IPv4 Soft Landing Policy"now Available Online
Andrew Alston
aa at tenet.ac.za
Thu Feb 24 02:52:17 UTC 2011
On 2011/02/23 8:54 PM, "Jackson Muthili" <jacksonmuthi at gmail.com> wrote:
> Owen,
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Jackson Muthili wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> AfriNIC resources are for the AfriNIC geographical region. For each
>>>>>> allocation or assignment made during the Exhaustion Phase, no more than
>>>>>> 10% of these resources may be used outside of the AfriNIC region, and
>>>>>> any use outside the AfriNIC region shall be solely in support of
>>>>>> connectivity back to the AfriNIC region.
>>>>>
>>>>> How is this measured? What counts as 'outside'?
>>>>>
>>>> AfriNIC has a clearly defined geographical service region. If an address is
>>>> assigned to a device physically outside of that defined region, then, the
>>>> address is being used outside of the region. This does not seem like
>>>> rocket science to me.
>>>
>>> What happens to african ISPs having customers outside the service
>>> region, if those customers can consume more than 10% of the ISP
>>> allocation?
>>
>> They probably should seek addresses for those customers from an
>> out-of-region RIR? This is permitted by all of the RIRs, I believe.
>
> Only when the ISP has legal presence in that RIR region of service.
> Dont all RIRs restrict resource provision to their service region?
>
Errr, sorry, but I need to point out something at this point. This is the
soft landing policy, by the time this policy kicks in, they will be UNABLE
to seek resources out of region. Currently AfriNIC's IP burn rate is such
that by the time that this policy kicks in, everyone else will have depleted
and only be offering v6.
Therefore, anyone wanting space for global expansion will HAVE to get it
from AfriNIC and announce it off continent. That or be told that they can't
have any and can't expand.
Further more, irrespective of how big said company was before and how much
space they had pre this policy kicking in, under current wording of said
policy, they cannot use more than 10% of *THAT* allocation off continent.
Are we now saying that said company must renumber loads of things to move
old allocations that weren't allocated under this policy off continent so
that they can use the new space within the geographic region? Because under
this policy wording, that would be allowed as well, though it does kind of
defeat the point of the policy.
I have HUGE issues with us saying that when a genuine African company has IP
space from AfriNIC they should be restricted as to where they use it, when
they cannot get space elsewhere. We live in a global world, business is
global, communications are global, are we as Africans going to continue to
try and hide in our corner of the world while the rest of the world moves
on, and deny ourselves the ability to grow into the global economy? Because
THAT I believe is the net effect of this.
Andrew
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