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[AfriNIC-rpd] Afrinic and RPKI

Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo carlosm3011 at
Sun Feb 13 19:36:02 UTC 2011

Hello Andrew,

I agree with you that this situation must be discussed. However, for
the sake of clarity and in order to appropriately analyze the
situation, I think the point must be made that it is not possible for
"a government" to order AfriNIC to shutdown X or Y.

The only government(s) that could order such a thing are those
governments where AfriNIC is legally constituted and/or holds
significant assets, which right now would include Mauritius and, maybe
South Africa and Egypt. It is just not "any government".

Government interference is certainly an issue that must be addressed
in order for RPKI to become widely accepted and deployed.

The "just not any government" observation will be a helpful one in the
future so RIRs can wisely chose where to incorportate and/or hold
significant assets.

Warm regards


On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Andrew Alston <aa at> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> While I was considering developing a policy proposal around RPKI in Africa,
> I figured before I attempt that one, and its a bit of a minefield, I¹d like
> to open some discussion on the list about RPKI.
> While I am not going to attempt to go into the details of RPKI in this
> email, and will leave that up to the reader to do some research (its a
> complex topic), I would like someone from AfriNIC to respond to the
> following questions that can help guide policy formation on this issue.
> A.) When a government declares that ISP X must be turned off, and issues
> AfriNIC with an order to turn them off, that is generated in a court in the
> country that the ISP resides in, how is AfriNIC planning on responding.
> B.) With the acceptance of RPKI we effectively allow outside forces to
> control the issuing and revocation of IP space, and if we look at the
> actions taken recently in Tunisia, Egypt and rumour has it now in Algeria,
> is this really a road we want to walk down?
> C.) Has AfriNIC done any work with regards to RPKI to prepare for if this
> does become a reality?
> Right now, I see the world discussing RPKI as a solution for IP hijacking,
> which is likely to become far more commonplace now that IP space is running
> out, at the same time, I see us being years away from RPKI implementations.
> (There is no code in the routers to support this yet, there are immense
> technical and political hurdles to be crossed, and its a fundemental change
> to the way the Internet actually operates and in my opinion a grave threat
> to the autonomy of ISPs).  However, with the global debate on this
> increasing I think it would be irresponsible of us in the AfriNIC region if
> we did not start taking a long hard look at this and deciding how we as the
> African community want to respond.
> So, I¹d like to issue an invitation for some discussion on this subject on
> the list.  Do some reading, do some research, and lets hear some thoughts so
> that we can develop some sensible policies around this within the community,
> before its far to late and we are forced to accept something implemented by
> the rest of the world without our thoughts being heard.
> I would strongly suggest reading
> Thanks
> Andrew Alston
> TENET ­ Chief technology Officer
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Carlos M. Martinez-Cagnazzo

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