[AfriNIC-rpd] Re: Proposal: Ability to Transfer IPv4 addresses from a member to any company

[Walubengo J]

just out of curiosity, was this proposal (which seems to be headed to the guillotine) intended to regularize a "black" market for IPv4 resources?

Does anyone have literature or experiences of underground trading of IPv4 resources? As in how big is the market, how does it work, who are the major actors and beneficiaries? Any urls documenting this practice?

walu.
 

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Douglas Onyango <ondouglas at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Douglas Onyango <ondouglas at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [AfriNIC-rpd] Re: Proposal: Ability to Transfer IPv4 addresses from a member to any company
To: rpd at afrinic.net, "Jean-Robert Hountomey" <hrobert at iservices.tg>
Cc: sm+afrinic at elandsys.com, rpd at afrinic.net, "'Alan Barrett'" <apb at cequrux.com>
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 11:29 AM

I oppose the Proposal.
The spirit contravenes most of what we are trying to build in the African region - clearly cited in earlier posts.


Regards,
--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Jean-Robert Hountomey <hrobert at iservices.tg> wrote:

> >> On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:07 AM, sm+afrinic at elandsys.com
> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hi Jack,
> >>> At 07:41 04-02-11, Jackson Muthili wrote:
> >>>> I would like to submit the proposal
> below.
> >>> 
> >>> Your proposal is being forwarded to the
> Resource Policy Discussion
> mailing list (rpd at afrinic.net)
> for discussion.  We will contact you about
> the identifier for your proposal once the template for
> proposals and the
> implementation details of the current Policy Development
> Process has been to
> be finalized.
> >>> 
> >>> For your information, the Policy Development
> Process in the AfriNIC 
> >>> service region is documented in
> AFPUB-2010-GEN-005 ( 
> >>> http://www.afrinic.net/docs/policies/AFPUB-2010-GEN-005.htm
> ).  The 
> >>> discussions about a proposal are carried out
> on the Resource Policy 
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> >>> If you need any help with your proposal, you
> can post a message to the
> Resource Policy Discussion mailing list or contact the
> Interim co-chairs.
> >>> 
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Alan Barrett and S. Moonesamy
> >>> Interim co-chairs, AfriNIC Policy Development
> Working Group
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> Draft Policy Name: Transfer of IPv4
> addresses to any entity.
> >>>> Author: Jackson Muthili | jacksonmuthi at gmail.com
> | IP Consultant 
> >>>> Submission Date: February 5th 2011
> >>>> 
> >>>> 1.0 Summary of the Problem Being Addressed
> by this Policy Proposal
> >>>> 
> >>>> The ICANN/IANA address pool is finished.
> Sooner, the RIR address pool
> will also get depleted. It is possible that there will be
> continued demand
> for IPv4 addresses long after the AfriNIC pool is depleted.
> New ISPs (and
> those growing their existing networks) that do not want
> (for various
> reasons) to consider IPv6 will be looking for IPv4
> addresses. This proposal
> attempts to propose a legitimate way for such ISPs to
> acquire IPv4 addresses
> from existing AfriNIC members (legacy or not) who wish to
> give away some
> addresses (with some consideration or otherwise).
> >>>> 
> >>>> 2.0 The Proposal
> >>>> 
> >>>> 2.1 Legacy members can transfer part or
> all of their IPv4 addresses to
> any company. The criteria below will apply:
> >>>>    - The company to which the
> addresses are transferred may or may not
> enter into agreement with AfriNIC.
> >>>>    - The legacy member may or
> may not inform AfriNIC about the
> transaction.
> >>>>    - AfriNIC will accord the
> third party all relevant access to
> services and benefits normally available to legacy
> members.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 2.2 Paying AfriNIC members can transfer
> part or all of their IPv4
> addresses to any company. The criteria below will apply:
> >>>>   - The company to which
> the addresses are transferred must enter into
> agreement with AfriNIC.
> >>>>   - The transfer and needs
> analysis cannot be based on any current
> policies. The only requirement for the transfer to happen
> should be the
> contract between the member and AfriNIC.
> >>>>   - The relevant AfriNIC
> fees must apply to the third party.
> >>>>   - AfriNIC will accord the
> third party all relevant access to services
> and benefits normally available to normal members.
> >>> 
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