[AfriNIC-rpd] IPV4 Depletion issues and implications

[Mouhamet Diop]

Hello Badru and Alan,

I think we should reconsider the question of the Central Pool to gather
returned IP address space.

The problem of return IP address space is not an African one (our users are
not ceoncerned), it is for sure an US problem and a solution for new RIR
like Afrinic and lacnic.

So if the answer is "we should not interfere into that local policy
discussion" , it won't be resolved at all...

Central Pool is a good concept but reallocation policy for the returned Pool
of Address I sa more important topic to discuss and registry like AFRINIC
and LACNIC will gained more to have that policy discussed a shared policy
rather than a policy for each RIR.

So if we want the solution to the IPv4 depletion, the question of the
Central Pool of returned IP address should be considered as central and not
local.


Regards

Mouhamet Diop


-----Message d'origine-----
De : rpd-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:rpd-bounces at afrinic.net] De la part de
Badru Ntege
Envoyé : mercredi 26 mars 2008 15:54
À : 'AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List'
Objet : RE: [AfriNIC-rpd] IPV4 Depletion issues and implications

Alan 

Thanks for the excelent comments, it would be nice if we can hear from some
more people.  By the way the questions are from another fora and i was
curious to gather some ideas a thoughts from the Afrinic community.  You are
right about the cross polination of policy makers but I wonder whether in a
region like ours where we still have very low participation we might end up
adopting policys from other regions colonial style as a result of very low
active/region specific participation.

badru

-----Original Message-----
From: rpd-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:rpd-bounces at afrinic.net] On Behalf Of
Alan Levin
Sent: 26 March 2008 15:14
To: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List
Subject: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] IPV4 Depletion issues and implications

Hi,

Thanks Badru for posing these questions.  I offer some answers that  
are my personal opinion only, meant as a straw man. I am no expert and  
participate for discussion purposes and learning.

On 26 Mar 2008, at 9:36 AM, Badru Ntege wrote:
> 1. Should the RIRs jointly undertake policies or practices to  
> regarding the
> depletion of the free pools of the IANA or RIRs?

I think that the answer has to be yes. Is it possible for it to be no?

I don't think that they necessarily need to be uniform policies but  
there must be - and already are - such policies, I believe.

> a. Should a central pool be created to gather returned IP address  
> space?

No, I think this should be handled by each RIR.

> How should this pool be administered and managed? Should this be
> established by an inter-RIR policy?

No, at this stage I think we consider some cases.

>        b. Is there a deleterious effect caused by the adoption of  
> differing
> transfer policies in some regions that are more liberal than those  
> that
> currently exist in the regions?

This needs to be phrased in plain english but I attempt a response.

I think that there will be a "deleterious effect" if some RIRs are  
dictated to by other RIRs. This will basically make things very  
difficult as members lose control of their own policy making roles and  
responsibilities.  So it will be far better to allow each RIR their  
own policy, although in my experience there is a sufficient cross  
pollination of policy makers to ensure that they are all aligned.

>        c. Should an inter-RIR policy be developed for the purpose of
> conducting transfers of Internet Number Resources between regions?

I think not until we know more.
How is this different from Qu1?

regards

Alan




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