[AfriNIC-rpd] What is our take on the central pool IPv4exhaustion?

[Mark J Elkins]

I don't think there is any point trying to extend IPv4 life too much -
this will happen largely automatically (IPv4 after-market dealings) but
perhaps AfriNIC could simply make it more difficult to provide the
remainder space.
a) For totally new organisations requesting space - they need to provide
IPv6 plans.
b) For organisations with existing space - the need to apply for IPv6
space and show roll-out plans with appropriate time scales before any
new allocations?
Might be harsh - but something along these lines. Thinking of SAIX
(Telkom SA) - how can one "encourage" them to roll out IPv6 on ADSL -
which is where I'd expect most new IPv4 requests to end up.

On Routing Registry - I'd love AfriNIC to have one. Its already  queried
whenever one does a "whois" lookup to all databases... and would make it
administratively easier to have all details in one "location" only.

On implementing IPv6 - I like John Curran's suggestion - which is close
to what I'm doing already..
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-jcurran-v6transitionplan-01.txt
(It therefore must be good :-)

I see that AfriNIC has taken this last point to heart and have assigned
an IPv6 address to "www.afrinic.net"..
however...

traceroute to www.afrinic.net (196.216.2.1), 30 hops max, 46 byte packets
 1  cispos2.posix.co.za (160.124.48.254)  0.803 ms  0.858 ms  0.848 ms
 2  cisrb1-cispos2.posix.co.za (160.124.1.53)  25.961 ms  41.111 ms 
12.691 ms
 3  168.209.89.53 (168.209.89.53)  12.593 ms  12.561 ms  12.495 ms
 4  cp1-jinx-gi0-1.rtr.isnet.net (196.26.0.253)  13.432 ms  13.123 ms 
12.479 ms
 5  ge0-3.br1.jnb7.alter.net (196.30.228.241)  13.010 ms  12.955 ms 
13.240 ms
 6  ge0-2.cr1.jnb7.alter.net (196.31.17.161)  13.958 ms  15.593 ms 
15.440 ms
 7  srp3-0-0.gw2.jnb6.alter.net (196.30.156.4)  17.841 ms  17.197 ms 
17.849 ms
     MPLS Label=85 CoS=0 TTL=0 S=0
 8  vlan9.hr5.jnb6.alter.net (196.30.156.139)  17.077 ms  15.770 ms 
16.689 ms
 9  gtw-out-afrinic.afrinic.net (196.30.227.66)  16.294 ms  24.693 ms 
16.095 ms
10  ns1.afrinic.net (196.216.2.1)  17.460 ms  16.767 ms  16.644 ms

traceroute to www.afrinic.net (2001:42d0::200:80:1) from
2001:42a0:1000:ff02:20e:cff:fe3e:99ca, 30 hops max, 24 byte packets
 1  cispos2-fe0-0.posix.co.za (2001:42a0:1000:ff02::1)  0.841 ms  0.947
ms  0.823 ms
 2  cisrb1-cispta2.posix.co.za (2001:42a0:0:ff01::1)  13.832 ms  13.858
ms  13.646 ms
 3  cisldn1-cisrb1.posix.co.za (2001:42a0:1:ff01::2)  197.47 ms  313.796
ms  214.204 ms
 4  ae0-112.lon11.ip6.tiscali.net (2001:668:0:3::4000:51)  195.477 ms 
191.338 ms  224.729 ms
 5  so-0-0-0.ams11.ip6.tiscali.net (2001:668:0:2::1:181)  289.653 ms 
261.461 ms  235.211 ms
 6  e0-0-0.6b2.AMS7.Alter.net (2001:7f8:1::a501:2702:1)  258.502 ms 
255.465 ms  219.348 ms
 7  6b1.jnb6.za.uu.net (2001:600:8:3::2)  419.708 ms  422.217 ms  475.687 ms
 8  www.afrinic.net (2001:42d0::200:80:1)  445.819 ms  424.772 ms 
448.075 ms

We need some local IPv6 Peering!!!!

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