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[AfriNIC-rpd] IPv4 BoF report

Andrew Alston aa at
Fri May 18 20:04:52 UTC 2007

As John said,

The harder you make it to get IPv4 and the more expensive you make it to get
IPv4 the more you promote alternative technologies.  Now, some would argue
that this would cause an amplification of NAT, I agree, to a point, however
there are limits to what you can do with NAT.  NAT also started to get
expensive, the time spent debugging, the time spent setting it up, the
additional load created by translation mechanisms, at some point it just
won't be worth it (I hope)

My view, if you want IPv4 space, as John said, then show AfriNIC you are at
the very least actively preparing for V6.  I am not normally a fan of
regulation, I prefer the more chaotic way things happen, and I generally
follow the rule that if someone digs a grave for themselves they should lie
in it, but there does come a point where for the sake of the greater good
something has to be done.  Let's face it, if there ends up in a disaster
because of very delayed migration and non-working systems, it won't only
affect those who waited too long, those who did nothing, but also those of
us that ARE ready but are now having to deal with a far less stable, far
more natted and probably far more broken environment.

With this in mind, if you want IPv4 space, prove your IPv6 readiness or
preparations to get there.  

Just my 2c


-----Original Message-----
From: rpd-bounces at [mailto:rpd-bounces at] On Behalf Of
Alain Patrick AINA
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:50 PM
To: rpd at
Cc: John Hay
Subject: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] IPv4 BoF report

> I agree with Andrew, we should stop putting our energy in ipv4 and rather
> spend it on ipv6. Maybe we should change the policy for getting ipv4
> addresses to require ISPs to implement ipv6 before they can get more ipv4
> addresses?
> Something like the ARIN proposal that Adiel forwarded a few days ago, but
> on an even shorter timeframe. And without the part that try to conserve
> ipv4 addresses. I think it way past the time to put effort into that.

It is probably the way to go. But i suggest that in everything  we do, keep
mind how  hard it is to get thing move in Africa for various we all know.

We may end up with  the amplification of IPv4 NAT in our region.

> I think the biggest problem with IPv6 is the ISPs not implementing it.
> Most operating systems shipping today have IPv6 enabled or an easy way
> to enable it.

What should be the incentives to get ISPs to deploy it ?


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