[AfriNIC-rpd] AfriNIC Policy Proposal: IPv6 ProviderIndependent (PI) Assignment for End-Sites

[Mark J Elkins]

Vincent Ngundi wrote:
> On Mar 22, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Mark J Elkins wrote:
>
>> McTim - what then are you suggesting? .. to never have PI IPv6 in the
>> AfriNIC region?
>>
>> I believe that some organisations truly need PI IPv6 address space.
>> I don't think its down to us to discuss pricing - but I'd have to agree
>> with you - if the price was high enough
>> only those that really need would apply - as long as its world
>> route-able (thus filling up routing tables around the world).

>> From a "Routing Table" point of view - this is one reason why I liked
>> the idea of providing back-to-back /48 allocations for the likes of
>> IXP's - addresses that would not need to be routed around the world...
>> separate from organisations that really do need world route-able
>> addresses.
>>
>> The folk at AfriNIC can allocate addresses from appropriate blocks
>> according to the needs of the clients
> The new draft doesn't explicitly define the size of the block from
> which the assignments will be made. As Adiel pointed out, these
> decisions are affected by many other factors and as such we should
> leave it to AfriNIC to make that decision.
>
Agreed ...

... and careful stewardship can reduce the impact on global routing
tables whilst giving organisations what they need.
... and AfriNIC has already demonstrated these qualities.

Consensus on the Policy yet?

>> - they could even have a two tier
>> price - low price for world-non-routable, high price for world-routable.
> ditto.
>
> -v
>>
>> In the mean time....
>> a) We still need a PI IPv6 policy though.
>> b) The "routing table" problem will be solved - the AfriNIC negative
>> (as in growth of the table size) contribution will be negligible.
>>
>>
>>
>> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>>> Nobody is asking to be in panic mode, just to fulfill the AfriNIC
>>> and the
>>> community rules and having a balance in what is really needed and
>>> what is
>>> conservation.
>>>
>>> Making possible for all end-users to apply for this policy may
>>> become a big
>>> waste and not only about addresses and routing slots, but also a
>>> problem for
>>> AfriNIC to handle contracts, fees and membership of end-users (as
>>> individuals) and many additional implications.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jordi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> De: Alain Patrick AINA <aalain at trstech.net>
>>>> Organización: technologies réseaux et Solutions (www.trstech.net)
>>>> Responder a: <aalain at trstech.net>, AfriNIC Resource Policy
>>>> Discussion List
>>>> <rpd at afrinic.net>
>>>> Fecha: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:12:03 +0000
>>>> Para: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd at afrinic.net>
>>>> Asunto: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] AfriNIC Policy Proposal: IPv6
>>>> ProviderIndependent
>>>> (PI) Assignment for End-Sites
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday 22 March 2007 11:27:39 McTim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/22/07, Alain Patrick AINA <aalain at trstech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> seems easy to fix between now and abuja :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other hidden aspect of this discussion is: "are we solving a
>>>>>> problem
>>>>>> for ens-site or for end-user ?"
>>>>>>
>>>>> We are solving a problem for a small number of folk, but creating
>>>>> future problems for all.  We can obviate future woes by setting
>>>>> appropriate fees for v6 PI.
>>>>>
>>>>> I recommend this: http://www.vaf.net/~vaf/rrg.pdf  for folk who are
>>>>> interested in routing scaling issues.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes. Routing and addressing scalability is an issue and we have to
>>>> look at it,
>>>> but not in panic mode.
>>>>
>>>> IETF-68's yesterday plenary has an interesting discussion on it .
>>>>
>>>> See the routing and addressing problem status report  at :
>>>> http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07mar/slides/plenaryw-3.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --alain
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