<div dir="auto"><div><div>Dear DBWG,</div><div dir="auto">Hope this email finds you in good health!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please see my comments below, inline.</div><div dir="auto">Thanks.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Le ven. 10 mai 2024 à 12:52 PM, Frank Habicht <<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>> a écrit :<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br><br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Hi Frank,</div><div dir="auto">Thanks for keeping the WG as active as you can, brother :'-(</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
I hope/trust that's not a question for "Support"...<br><br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...sure!</div><div dir="auto">But, someone should explain how Policy </div><div dir="auto">Manual have been used in building the </div><div dir="auto">business rules behind implementation :-)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
I tried to update/modify a role object, and got this (sorry for the line <br>
breaks):<br><br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What's the difference with other objects?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">PII (Person Identifiable Information) risk?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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***Error: Person/Role name cannot be changed automatically. Please create<br><br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...time to *automate* the process?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> another Person/Role object and modify any references to the old<br>
object, then delete the old object<br><br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">:-/ so the object's history would be lost? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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I can't see a reason why </blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...i don't also agree that:</div><div dir="auto">'delete' right </div><div dir="auto">is easily grantable than </div><div dir="auto">'update' right</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">:-/ ...i would have understood a kind of </div><div dir="auto">intent implementation of a "protect *new created* objects in order to avoid an accidental deletion" policy...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Such as: </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"A WhoisDB object can only be deleted </div><div dir="auto">after a *reasonable* amount of time; at least : </div><div dir="auto"> $new_delete_prevent_time seconds"</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">->Protected object! please try again after</div><div dir="auto"> $new_delete_prevent_time seconds; </div><div dir="auto">in case you *really* need to delete it ;-)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">updates to role projects should not be allowed.<br>
I even think that's the main purpose....<br>
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So, am I missing something?<br>
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<br>
Thanks,<br>
Frank<br>
<no hats><br>
<br>
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PS: AfriNIC staff:<br>
I got "Internal software error" when i wanted to delete<br>
SNHT55555-AFRINIC<br>
less than 1 minute after creating it<br><br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...interesting behaviour :-\</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">< $new_delete_prevent_time?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
wanted to delete it with the line<br>
delete: remove<br>
added<br>
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according to<br>
delete: <comment><br>
under section "2.2.4 Deleting an object"<br>
in<br>
<a href="https://afrinic.net/press/197-database-afrinic-database-reference-manual-" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/press/197-database-afrinic-database-reference-manual-</a><br>
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deleting without the comment worked.<br><br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Noted!</div><div dir="auto">...by the way, have you first reproduced </div><div dir="auto">your initial testing steps/constraints[*]?</div><div dir="auto">:-)</div><div dir="auto">__</div><div dir="auto">[*]: (i) create an object; (ii) delete within a minute; (iii) ...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Can that section in that manual be reviewed?<br><br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For the *remastering* activity concerning</div><div dir="auto"> the Whois Manual & documentation, it </div><div dir="auto">should be done openly & collaboratively; </div><div dir="auto">imho!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...it would be interesting to contribute on </div><div dir="auto">it under a public/locally [.] accessible git </div><div dir="auto">repository or a self hosted [.] wiki engine.</div><div dir="auto">__</div><div dir="auto">[.]: idea <free•tools•africa> or dot afrinic?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If google sent me to an outdated document, can we remove it?<br><br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...or simply versioned and archived?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please see here [1] for appropriate facts.</div><div dir="auto">__</div><div dir="auto">[1]: AFRINIC's Factsheets</div><div dir="auto"><<a href="https://afrinic.net/our-factsheets/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/our-factsheets/</a>></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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Thanks,<br>
Frank<br><br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Shalom,</div><div dir="auto">--sb.<br><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">--<br>Best Regards !<br><br>baya.sylvain [AT cmNOG DOT cm] <br>| "cmNOG's Structure"<<a href="https://www.cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure</a>> | "Douala-IX's IXP Manager"<<a href="https://ixpm.douala-ix.net/statistics/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ixpm.douala-ix.net/statistics/</a>> |</div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">"cmNOG's Surveys"<<a href="https://survey2.cmnog.cm" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://survey2.cmnog.cm</a>> | "Subscribe to cmNOG's Mailing List"<<a href="https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog</a>>|<br>__<br>#LASAINTEBIBLE|#Colossiens2:14,13-17«14 IL a effacé l'acte dont les ordonnances nous condamnaient et qui subsistait contre nous, et IL l'a détruit en le clouant à la croix;»#AMEN,#Maranatha,#MerciJÉSUS!#MaPrière est que tu naisses de nouveau.#Chrétiennement</div><br><div style="min-width:150px" dir="auto"></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>[...]<br><br>
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