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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=en-MU link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-MU style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Good morning,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-MU style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-MU style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I would like to apologise if ever there has been any confusion about the virtual room for the last DBWG session. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-MU style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-MU style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Mr. Baya, kindly share with me privately in which virtual room you were waiting and how you landed there. We would like to avoid such a situation in the future. Seeing your contribution on the mailing list, it is very unfortunate that we could not have you during the DBWG session itself. Thank you very much for your contributions. We have taken good note of them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-MU style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-MU style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I would like to invite other people on this mailing list to give your feedback on the ideas shared, and share any new ideas you may have.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-MU style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-MU style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-MU style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yogesh Chadee<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-MU style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-MU style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Sylvain Baya <abscoco@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 22 June 2022 10:04<br><b>To:</b> Yogesh Chadee <yogesh@afrinic.net>; AfriNIC's DBWG <dbwg@afrinic.net><br><b>Subject:</b> [DBWG] Followup on the DBWG session<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dear DBWG,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hope this email finds you in good health!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Please see my comments below, inline...<br><br>Le vendredi 27 mai 2022, Yogesh Chadee <<a href="mailto:yogesh@afrinic.net" target="_blank">yogesh@afrinic.net</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU>Dear DBWG members,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> Hi Yogesh,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for your email, brother!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU>We have had a very fruitful DBWG session </span><span lang=EN-US>on 26 May 2022</span><span lang=en-MU> and I would like to thank all those who attended.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But i missed it, while waiting in the wrong place :'-(<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU>As promised, the slide deck for the presentations and the recording of the session may be consulted online from this webpage:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU><a href="https://ais22.sched.com/event/12zVt" target="_blank">https://ais22.sched.com/event/12zVt</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for the URI!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As per the video recording [1], i see that the working<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> items are the same old ones...i hope the meeting<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> report shall come soon.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>__<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[1]: <<a href="https://youtu.be/PhxvlQuto9A" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/PhxvlQuto9A</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>While watching the recording...i heard some good<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> ideas, which i try to list below, adding few of mine:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Idea#1: Open Collaborative Development of the features of the DB service<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i1.1| install a gitlab instance (git|lab•<a href="http://afrinic.net" target="_blank">afrinic.net</a>)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i1.2| create a git repository (db•gitlab•<a href="http://afrinic.net" target="_blank">afrinic.net</a>) to <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>collaboratively handle (free/opensource|FLOSS) <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>the development of features of the DB service (whois/IRR/RPKI/...);<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i1.3| start with a collaborative editing of the AfriNIC's Whois DB manual, still in progress;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i1.4| ...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Idea#2: Document & Automate the Process of Mirroring the AfriNIC's IRR registry data<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i2.1| document the Process;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i2.2| automate the process;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i2.3| publish a call for mirroring;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i2.4| ...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Idea#3: Update the Whois [2] DB core package<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i3.1| find the latest update of the core Whois package;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i3.2| upgrade the current version to the latest release;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i3.3| launch the service on the OT&E environment;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i3.4| collect beta testers' observations;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i3.5| adjust and push in production;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i3.6| plan to maintain the curve;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i3.7| ...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>__<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[2]: <<a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/weirds/documents/" target="_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/weirds/documents/</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Idea#4: Move forward the current working items<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i4.1| clearly formulate the problem statement of each one;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i4.2| provide IAR (Impact Analysis Report) for each one;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i4.3| submit to DBWG, for adoption consideration;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i4.4| for each one approved by the BDWG, propose an implementation plan;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i4.5| do follow-up by regularly organise 30 to 45 <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>mins appointments with volunteers of the DBWG;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i4.6| ...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Idea#5: Create an OT&E (Operational Testing & Evaluation) [3] environment<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i5.1| prepare the infrastructure in collaboration with ARIN (OT&E exists out there);<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i5.2| duplicate the actual DB service;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i5.3| finalise the DB Testing environment;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i5.4| document the sercice collaboratively;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i5.5| start the service;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i5.6| activate a vibrant community (beta-tester <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>volunteers) around the service;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i5.7| ...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>__<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[3]: <<a href="https://www.arin.net/reference/tools/testing/#:~:text=OT%26E%20is%20an%20environment%20that%20contains%20data;main%20ARIN%20services%3A" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/reference/tools/testing/</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Idea#6: Regular AfriNIC's Whois DB consistency check.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i6.1| start with the RIPE ARC [4];<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i6.2| adapt to AfriNIC's environment;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i6.3| ..<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>__<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[4]: The Assisted Registry Check - Let Us Help You! <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><<a href="https://labs.ripe.net/author/matt_parker/the-assisted-registry-check-let-us-help-you/" target="_blank">https://labs.ripe.net/author/matt_parker/the-assisted-registry-check-let-us-help-you/</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Idea#7: Supporting RPKI Ghostbusters Records (GbR) [5]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i7.1| follow-up IETF's activities;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i7.2| implement RFC6493 in adding the GbR record<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> within the RPKI infrastructure, like other RIRs;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i7.3| launch the service on the OT&E environment;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i7.4| collect beta-tester volunteers' observations;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i7.5| adjust & push into production;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i7.6| plan to maintain the curve;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i7.7| ...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>__<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[5]: The Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> Ghostbusters Record (RFC 6493) <<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6493" target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6493</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Idea#8: Supporting BGP Security Research Activities<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i8.1| follow-up IETF's activities and contribute actively;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i8.2| work to become one of the early implementers;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i8.3| join the other developpers [6] actually working<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> in implementing the RFCs [7,8,9] about BGPsec;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i8.4| write a *floss* working code to allow more<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>type of objects into RPKI repository;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i8.5| deploy the code into the OT&E environment;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i8.6| allow beta-tester volunteers to start creating, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>at least, also their certificates;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i8.7| adjust & push into production environnement;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i8.8| ...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>__<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[6]:<<a href="https://www.nist.gov/services-resources/software/bgp-secure-routing-extension-bgp-srx-software-suite" target="_blank">https://www.nist.gov/services-resources/software/bgp-secure-routing-extension-bgp-srx-software-suite</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><<a href="https://csrc.nist.gov/publications/detail/white-paper/2021/09/15/bgp-secure-routing-extension-bgp-srx/final" target="_blank">https://csrc.nist.gov/publications/detail/white-paper/2021/09/15/bgp-secure-routing-extension-bgp-srx/final</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[7]: <<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8205/" target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8205/</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[8]: <<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8207/" target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8207/</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[9]: <<a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/sidr/documents/" target="_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/sidr/documents/</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Idea#9: AfriNIC's Compliance Dashboard<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i9.1| develop a tool to help resource holders to check their compliance with the CPM & RSA;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i9.2| deploy the code into the OT&E environment;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i9.3| allow beta-tester volunteers to play; <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i9.4| adjust & push into production environnement;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i9.5| document the service collaboratively;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i9.6| ...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Idea#10: Any other.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i10.1| ...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU>I would also like to seize the opportunity to invite everyone to participate in the Internet Summit Africa 2022. More details can be found on its website:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU><a href="https://2022.internetsummit.africa/" target="_blank">https://2022.internetsummit.africa/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>...maybe late, but someone should have explained<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> well how (with which URI) to join a given session.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Shalom,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>--sb.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=en-MU>Yogesh Chadee<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Best Regards !<br>__<br>baya.sylvain[AT cmNOG DOT cm]|<<a href="https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure">https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure</a>><br>Subscribe to Mailing List: <<a href="https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/">https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/</a>><br>__<br>#LASAINTEBIBLE|#Romains15:33«Que LE #DIEU de #Paix soit avec vous tous! #Amen!»<br>#MaPrière est que tu naisses de nouveau. #Chrétiennement<br>«Comme une biche soupire après des courants d’eau, ainsi mon âme soupire après TOI, ô DIEU!»(#Psaumes42:2)<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>