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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-ZA link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Nishal, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Unfortunately the response 3 months after the initial request only stated the below: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><snip><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'>Hello Mr. Holahan,</span><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'>I hope this email finds you well. Thank you for your valuable feedback and I am<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'>sorry it went unanswered for so long.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'>I see you write remarks about certain fields (in this case members:) on the<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'>following line when creating an object (in this case as-set:), and you expect<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'>the WHOIS output to therefore respect the order of fields as they were<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'>originally created for the remarks to be meaningful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'>If we modify the default behaviour, it will affect all users of the WHOIS. We<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'>could instead add a flag to make this happen, as you rightly suggested.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'>However, for this change of behaviour of the WHOIS service, I would ask you to<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'>report the difficulties you are encountering along with your proposed solutions<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'>to the Database Working Group for consensus on the way forward:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black'><a href="https://afrinic.net/committees/database-wg" title="https://afrinic.net/committees/database-wg">https://afrinic.net/committees/database-wg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'></snip><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Regards </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:35.0pt'><td width=627 valign=top style='width:470.45pt;border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:35.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Patrick Holahan</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> (TENET)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Mobile: +27(79)523-5555 Fault Reporting: <a href="mailto:+27(21)763-7147"><span style='color:#954F72'>+27(21)763-7147</span></a> or <a href="mailto:support@tenet.ac.za"><span style='color:#1F4E79'>support@tenet.ac.za</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Nishal Goburdhan <nishal@controlfreak.co.za><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 17 December 2019 at 16:53<br><b>To: </b>Patrick Holahan <patrickh@tenet.ac.za><br><b>Cc: </b><dbwg@afrinic.net><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [DBWG] Order of DBM objects within whois.afrinic.net IRR DB<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 17 Dec 2019, at 16:45, Patrick Holahan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm' id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi DB WG folk,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I was advised to forward the below email through here along with an <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>explanation as to why I wish it to work this way.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I think the email is pretty self-explanatory, advising that the order <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>of the RIPE DB shows remarks in the order they were added to the <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>object, rather than moving them and grouping them together. This <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>allows you to understand what remark links with what part of the <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>object.<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>this looks like a reasonable request.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>in addition to “take it to dbwg”, were you given any other comments.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>like why this could not be implemented? or what problems it would <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>create for the implementors?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>—n.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>