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<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I support. In my opinion: It should be possible to get this done
after verification that all parts of the /21 are registered to the
same resource holder.</p>
<p>Maybe that will have to be manual action, and i guess you (Mark)
don't mind. I'm also guessing that this only applies to very few
cases...?<br>
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<p>$ whois -h whois.afrinic.net -- -M 192.96.24.0/21 -T route</p>
<p>tells me what Mark described: 8 route objects for the 8 /24s</p>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Frank<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/08/18 14:35, Mark Elkins wrote:<br>
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<p>Hello members of DBWG. I am an AFRINIC member who has 8
consecutive /24's of address space. Their number were chosen so
that I could aggregate them together into a single /21, after
all, aggregation is good? I had (at RIPE) historically
aggregated them together in two smaller blocks.<br>
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<p>They are now properly aggregated in the RIPE Database as a
single route object:</p>
<p>% Information related to '192.96.24.0/21AS6083'<br>
<br>
route: 192.96.24.0/21<br>
origin: AS6083<br>
descr: Posix Systems, South Africa, Aggregate all<br>
mnt-by: POSIX-MNT<br>
created: 2018-08-14T16:18:27Z<br>
last-modified: 2018-08-14T16:18:27Z<br>
source: RIPE # Filtered<br>
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<div class="moz-forward-container">...but I can not do the same
thing in the AFRINIC IRR?<br>
<br>
They are registered as eight single /24's in the AFRINIC IRR
though.<br>
<br>
I would thus like some discussion and support for allowing
blocks to be aggregated when possible - as in this case. This
will be a "new feature" (according to Madhvi's e-mail copied
below) in the AFRINIC IRR.<br>
Do people thing aggregation is a good idea? (it reduces the
amount of memory needed in Routers that hold effectively "route
objects").<br>
It also showing that it is currently impossible to migrate all
route objects from RIPE to AFRINIC - which is bad because Frank
Habicht has reminded me that route[6] objects made up of AFRINIC
resources in the RIPE Database will have less "authority"
(RIPE-NONAUTH) from the 4th of September - just days away. <br>
(From :- <br>
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<th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Subject:
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<td>Implementation plan and dates for NWI5 - Out-of-region
ROUTE(6) objects and removal of ASN authorisation for
ROUTE(6) object creation.</td>
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<th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Date:
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<td>Thu, 19 Jul 2018 15:23:58 +0200</td>
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<th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">From:
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<td>Nathalie Trenaman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:nathalie@ripe.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><nathalie@ripe.net></a></td>
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<th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
<td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" moz-do-not-send="true">nanog@nanog.org</a></td>
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<pre>...We will implement these changes in the Release Candidate environment on
Thursday, 2 August and go to full production on Tuesday, 4 September....</pre>
)<br>
<br>
I was one of three AFRINIC Members who attended a discussion on
this at iWeek/AfPIF in Cape Town last week and I discussed the
above problem at that session as well as via e-mail to AFRINIC
and personally to Alan Barrett, the AFRINIC CEO. I have
otherwise copied what I can of my objects from RIPE to AFRINIC
and delete objects that are no longer required from the RIPE
Database - i.e. - I am doing what I understand good members of
AFRINIC should be doing.<br>
<br>
Please add your support.<br>
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<td>[AFRINIC IRR #622756] Fwd: SUCCESS : Your object is
successfully created in AFRINIC database</td>
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<th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Date:
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<td>Tue, 28 Aug 2018 13:34:53 +0400</td>
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<th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">From:
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<td>Madhvi Gokool via RT <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:irr@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><irr@afrinic.net></a></td>
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<td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:irr@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true">irr@afrinic.net</a></td>
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<th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
<td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" moz-do-not-send="true">mje@posix.co.za</a></td>
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<pre>Hello Mark
The scenario that you are requesting for is a new feature. We would like to
invite you to subscribe to the AFRINIC Database Working Group <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dbwg@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true">dbwg@afrinic.net</a>
(if not already done) and propose that such a feature be incorporated in the
AFRINIC IRR. The reason is that this queue <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:irr@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true">irr@afrinic.net</a> is meant to give
support on the current IRR.
I have shared the "issue" you encountered with other colleagues working on the
IRR enhancements. We look forward to discussion on new feature
requests/improvements on the DBWG. You will also be able to share the best
current practices based on your experience.
Regards
Madhvi
On Tue Aug 21 18:42:51 2018, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" moz-do-not-send="true">mje@posix.co.za</a> wrote:
The number resources are of course separate /24's. Nothing wrong with
that. However, I want to be a responsible Internet citizen - which means
aggregating the blocks together as a single block. In order to do that,
my Transit Provider (workonline.africa - note: they used to use
workonline.co.za) wants a route object in a routing database in order
for that to happen. He builds filters directly from the Routing Databases.
I may in the future wish to advertise one of these single /24's from
another location - so please don't play with individual /24's that would
break this from happening.
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The original creation of the Object gave me:-
On Tue Aug 14 22:06:44 2018, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" moz-do-not-send="true">mje@posix.co.za</a> wrote:
Hiya guys, What is this message all about? I did the same on RIPE and it
was live instantly.
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: SUCCESS : Your object is successfully created in AFRINIC database
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 17:35:00 +0000
From: AFRINIC Database Notifications <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:no-reply@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><no-reply@afrinic.net></a> (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:no-reply@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:no-reply@afrinic.net</a>)
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" moz-do-not-send="true">mje@posix.co.za</a> (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:mje@posix.co.za</a>)
SUMMARY OF UPDATE:
Number of objects found: 1
Number of objects processed successfully: 1
Create: 0
Modify: 0
Delete: 0
No Operation: 1
Number of objects processed with errors: 0
Create: 0
Modify: 0
Delete: 0
DETAILED EXPLANATION:
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The following object(s) were processed SUCCESSFULLY:
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Create PENDING: [route] 192.96.24.0/21AS6083
route: 192.96.24.0/21
descr: Posix Systems, South Africa, Aggregate all
origin: AS6083
mnt-by: POSIX-MNT
changed: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" moz-do-not-send="true">mje@posix.co.za</a> (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:mje@posix.co.za</a>) 20180814
source: AFRINIC
***Info: Authorisation for [inetnum] 0.0.0.0 - 255.255.255.255 failed
using "mnt-lower:"
not authenticated by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT
***Warning: This update has only passed one of the two required hierarchical
authorisations
***Info: The route object 192.96.24.0/21AS6083 will be saved for one week
pending the second authorisation
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I think personally that AFRINIC just has to authorise it? (not authenticated by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT)</pre>
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Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa
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