<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Mark,<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 18 Nov 2016, at 13:53, Mark Elkins <<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" class="">mje@posix.co.za</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">That was useful info.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I'm beginning to think the current settings are just fine.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">So, Yes, without '-B' - output is filtered - and it says so. No biggie.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">It could make sense though if the abuse address was always provided</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">without having to use the '-B’ option</span><br class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>The abuse-mailbox attribute is not filtered by default. So even without the -B option, the abuse email will always be shown.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>See example below.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">ITE-DSD4:~ simon$ whois -h <a href="http://whois.afrinic.net" class="">whois.afrinic.net</a> SS32-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">% This is the AfriNIC Whois server.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">% Note: this output has been filtered.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">% To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">% Information related to 'SS32-AFRINIC'</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">person: Simon Seruyinda</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">address: Plot 53, Avenue Des Capuccines, Quatre Bornes, Mauritius</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">phone: +23058248266</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">fax-no: +23046667844</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">nic-hdl: SS32-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">abuse-mailbox: <a href="mailto:simon@afrinic.net" class="">simon@afrinic.net</a></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">mnt-by: SSIMON-MNT</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div></div><div><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On 18/11/2016 11:39, Michel Odou wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Hi all,<br class=""><br class="">Concerning the filtering functions (they are actually two: one that<br class="">filters the emails, another one that filters the authentication<br class="">details), there is an explanation at<br class=""><a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-358" class="">https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-358</a>.<br class=""><br class="">-- begin quote:<br class=""><br class="">A filtering process restricts some data from default query results. This<br class="">applies to e-mail contact data. When a user is searching for abuse<br class="">contact data, they sometimes take all e-mail addresses found in all<br class="">objects returned from a query. This may include the correct address.<br class="">However, it often also includes many other addresses for people who are<br class="">not responsible for handling such complaints.<br class=""><br class="">To help overcome this issue, some attributes containing e-mail addresses<br class="">are filtered out of the default output. Other attributes, also<br class="">containing e-mail addresses, are filtered if one of the returned objects<br class="">includes an “abuse-mailbox:” attribute.<br class=""><br class="">-- end of quote<br class=""><br class="">So the intention behind this behavior is not to prevent spammers get the<br class="">email addresses. They can get them if they want - and btw, if you want<br class="">to update an object, the WHOIS requires you to send the complete RPSL<br class="">object (including emails and auth details) otherwise the update will be<br class="">rejected.<br class=""><br class="">On the other side, note that there is a limit on the queries to person<br class="">and role objects. Every IP address has a default daily limit of 5000<br class="">queries. If the limit is reached within 24 hours, the IP address is<br class="">blocked for 24 hours. If the same IP address was blocked more than 10<br class="">times in the last 3 months, then it will not be allowed to query the<br class="">WHOIS during one year.<br class=""><br class="">Some white-listed addresses are not limited but this is done on a<br class="">case-by-case basis.<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">Michel<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 18/11/2016 6:25 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Well I don't use the -B option often (nevermind that I don't have<br class="">need/reason to consult whois that often). I just don't see a problem we<br class="">are solving by removing the filter option but I see a problem we may be<br class="">solving by leaving it. No matter how little it is, not everyone uses a<br class="">-B option and it just makes sense for the contact details to be filtered<br class="">by default<br class=""><br class="">Cheers!<br class=""><br class="">On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Mark Elkins <<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" class="">mje@posix.co.za</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" class="">mailto:mje@posix.co.za</a>>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""> I usually run whois without the '-B' - realise stuff is filtered -<br class="">then<br class=""> re-run with '-B'. Unless, as Frank asks, there is some form of rate<br class=""> limiting - then there is probably little point in filtering. It<br class="">would<br class=""> be cute that if the request is from an IP address associated to the<br class=""> results, that any form of rate limiting is ignored - if there is rate<br class=""> limiting.<br class=""><br class=""> On 18/11/2016 09:46, Alan Barrett wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">The AFRINIC WHOIS server “filters” results by default. It seems<br class=""></blockquote> to delete all fields that contain<br class=""> email addresses.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">For example, here are two queries with and without “-B”:<br class=""><br class="">$ whois -h <a href="http://whois.afrinic.net" class="">whois.afrinic.net</a> <<a href="http://whois.afrinic.net" class="">http://whois.afrinic.net</a>><br class=""></blockquote> IT7-AFRINIC | egrep -v '^%|^$'<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">person: Infrastructure Team<br class="">address: AFRINIC Ltd<br class="">address: 11th Floor, Standard Chartered Tower<br class="">address: 19, Cybercity<br class="">address: Ebène<br class="">address: Mauritius<br class="">phone: +230 403 51 00 <<a href="tel:%2B230%20403%2051%2000" class="">tel:%2B230%20403%2051%2000</a>><br class="">nic-hdl: IT7-AFRINIC<br class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<br class=""><br class="">$ whois -h <a href="http://whois.afrinic.net" class="">whois.afrinic.net</a> <<a href="http://whois.afrinic.net" class="">http://whois.afrinic.net</a>> -- '-B<br class=""></blockquote> IT7-AFRINIC' | egrep -v '^%|^$<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">person: Infrastructure Team<br class="">address: AFRINIC Ltd<br class="">address: 11th Floor, Standard Chartered Tower<br class="">address: 19, Cybercity<br class="">address: Ebène<br class="">address: Mauritius<br class="">phone: +230 403 51 00 <<a href="tel:%2B230%20403%2051%2000" class="">tel:%2B230%20403%2051%2000</a>><br class="">e-mail: <a href="mailto:sysadmin@afrinic.net" class="">sysadmin@afrinic.net</a> <<a href="mailto:sysadmin@afrinic.net" class="">mailto:sysadmin@afrinic.net</a>><br class="">nic-hdl: IT7-AFRINIC<br class="">changed: <a href="mailto:hiba@afrinic.net" class="">hiba@afrinic.net</a> <<a href="mailto:hiba@afrinic.net" class="">mailto:hiba@afrinic.net</a>> 20130416<br class="">changed: <a href="mailto:radha.ramphul@afrinic.net" class="">radha.ramphul@afrinic.net</a><br class=""></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:radha.ramphul@afrinic.net" class="">mailto:radha.ramphul@afrinic.net</a>> 20160808<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">source: AFRINIC<br class=""><br class="">I have two questions about this:<br class=""><br class="">1. Instead of deleting the lines that are “filtered”, would it<br class=""></blockquote> make sense to replace them<br class=""> with some sort of explanation that the information has been filtered?<br class=""> For example, like this:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">person: Infrastructure Team<br class="">address: AFRINIC Ltd<br class="">address: 11th Floor, Standard Chartered Tower<br class="">address: 19, Cybercity<br class="">address: Ebène<br class="">address: Mauritius<br class="">phone: +230 403 51 00 <<a href="tel:%2B230%20403%2051%2000" class="">tel:%2B230%20403%2051%2000</a>><br class="">e-mail: # Filtered<br class="">nic-hdl: IT7-AFRINIC<br class="">changed: # Filtered<br class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<br class=""><br class="">2. Is it useful to censor the email addresses by default? It<br class=""></blockquote> seems to me that this adds<br class=""> no security (because the query can simply be repeated with the “-B”<br class=""> option), and reduces the usefulness.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Alan Barrett<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""> --<br class=""> Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa<br class=""> <a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" class="">mje@posix.co.za</a> <<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" class="">mailto:mje@posix.co.za</a>> Tel: +27.128070590<br class=""> <<a href="tel:%2B27.128070590" class="">tel:%2B27.128070590</a>> Cell: +27.826010496 <<a href="tel:%2B27.826010496" class="">tel:%2B27.826010496</a>><br class=""> For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: <a href="https://ftth.posix.co.za" class="">https://ftth.posix.co.za</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> _______________________________________________<br class=""> DBWG mailing list<br class=""> <a href="mailto:DBWG@afrinic.net" class="">DBWG@afrinic.net</a> <<a href="mailto:DBWG@afrinic.net" class="">mailto:DBWG@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/dbwg" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/dbwg</a><br class=""> <<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/dbwg" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/dbwg</a>><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><br class=""> /Seun Ojedeji,<br class=""> Federal University Oye-Ekiti<br class=""> web: <a href="http://www.fuoye.edu.ng" class="">http://www.fuoye.edu.ng</a><br class=""> Mobile: +2348035233535<br class=""> //alt email:<<a href="http://goog_1872880453" class="">http://goog_1872880453</a>><a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng" class="">seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng</a><br class=""> <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng" class="">mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng</a>>/<br class=""><br class=""> Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your<br class=""> action!<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">DBWG mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:DBWG@afrinic.net" class="">DBWG@afrinic.net</a><br class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/dbwg<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; 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