[DBWG] why can't i change role object? -- resolved

[Frank Habicht]

Hi all,

My problem was that (as a test whether i can modify the object) i tried 
to change the first line/attribute: "role".

this is a "lookup key" per [1] and can not be changed.
Changing other attributes works.

Thanks Keessun for your help!

We agreed that documentation might need improvements.


Have a good time  - and let's have the cables fixed soon....

Frank
(no hat)


[1]
$ whois -h whois.afrinic.net -- -t role
[Querying whois.afrinic.net]
[whois.afrinic.net]
% This is the AfriNIC Whois server.
% The AFRINIC whois database is subject to  the following terms of Use. 
See https://afrinic.net/whois/terms

role:           [mandatory]  [single]     [lookup key]
address:        [mandatory]  [multiple]   [ ]
phone:          [optional]   [multiple]   [ ]
fax-no:         [optional]   [multiple]   [ ]
e-mail:         [mandatory]  [multiple]   [lookup key]
org:            [optional]   [multiple]   [inverse key]
admin-c:        [mandatory]  [multiple]   [inverse key]
tech-c:         [mandatory]  [multiple]   [inverse key]
nic-hdl:        [mandatory]  [single]     [primary/lookup key]
remarks:        [optional]   [multiple]   [ ]
notify:         [optional]   [multiple]   [inverse key]
abuse-mailbox:  [optional]   [multiple]   [inverse key]
mnt-by:         [optional]   [multiple]   [inverse key]
changed:        [mandatory]  [multiple]   [ ]
source:         [mandatory]  [single]     [ ]




On 16/05/2024 07:20, Sylvain Baya wrote:
> Dear DBWG,
> Hope this email finds you in good health!
> 
> Please see my comments below, inline.
> Thanks.
> 
> Le ven. 10 mai 2024 à 12:52 PM, Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz 
> <mailto:geier at geier.ne.tz>> a écrit :
> 
>     Hi all,
> 
> 
> Hi Frank,
> Thanks for keeping the WG as active as you can, brother :'-(
> 
> 
>     I hope/trust that's not a question for "Support"...
> 
> 
> ...sure!
> But, someone should explain how Policy
> Manual have been used in building the
> business rules behind implementation :-)
> 
> 
>     I tried to update/modify a role object, and got this (sorry for the
>     line
>     breaks):
> 
> 
> What's the difference with other objects?
> 
> PII (Person Identifiable Information) risk?
> 
> 
>     ***Error:   Person/Role name cannot be changed automatically. Please
>     create
> 
> 
> ...time to *automate* the process?
> 
> 
>                   another Person/Role object and modify any references
>     to the old
>                   object, then delete the old object
> 
> 
> 
> :-/ so the object's history would be lost?
> 
> 
> 
>     I can't see a reason why 
> 
> 
> ...i don't also agree that:
> 'delete' right
> is easily grantable than
> 'update' right
> 
> :-/ ...i would have understood a kind of
> intent implementation of a "protect *new created* objects in order to 
> avoid an  accidental deletion" policy...
> 
> Such as:
> 
> "A WhoisDB object can only be deleted
> after a *reasonable* amount of time; at least :
>   $new_delete_prevent_time seconds"
> 
> ->Protected object! please try again after
>   $new_delete_prevent_time seconds;
> in case you *really* need to delete it ;-)
> 
> 
>     updates to role projects should not be allowed.
>     I even think that's the main purpose....
> 
>     So, am I missing something?
> 
> 
>     Thanks,
>     Frank
>     <no hats>
> 
> 
>     PS: AfriNIC staff:
>     I got "Internal software error" when i wanted to delete
>     SNHT55555-AFRINIC
>     less than 1 minute after creating it
> 
> 
> ...interesting behaviour :-\
> 
> < $new_delete_prevent_time?
> 
> 
>     wanted to delete it with the line
>     delete:         remove
>     added
> 
>     according to
>     delete: <comment>
>     under section "2.2.4 Deleting an object"
>     in
>     https://afrinic.net/press/197-database-afrinic-database-reference-manual- <https://afrinic.net/press/197-database-afrinic-database-reference-manual->
> 
>     deleting without the comment worked.
> 
> 
> Noted!
> ...by the way, have you first reproduced
> your initial testing steps/constraints[*]?
> :-)
> __
> [*]: (i) create an object; (ii) delete within a minute; (iii) ...
> 
> 
>     Can that section in that manual be reviewed?
> 
> 
> For the *remastering* activity concerning
>   the Whois Manual & documentation, it
> should be done openly & collaboratively;
> imho!
> 
> ...it would be interesting to contribute on
> it under a public/locally [.] accessible git
> repository or a self hosted [.] wiki engine.
> __
> [.]: idea <free•tools•africa> or dot afrinic?
> 
> 
> 
>     If google sent me to an outdated document, can we remove it?
> 
> 
> ...or simply versioned and archived?
> 
> Please see here [1] for appropriate facts.
> __
> [1]: AFRINIC's Factsheets
> <https://afrinic.net/our-factsheets/ <https://afrinic.net/our-factsheets/>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     Thanks,
>     Frank
> 
> 
> 
> Shalom,
> --sb.
> 
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