[DBWG] Fwd: route-object auto-created from a ROA

Avinash GOKHOOL avinash at afrinic.net
Fri Oct 12 06:04:06 UTC 2018

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Subject: Re: [DBWG] route-object auto-created from a ROA
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:34:31 +0400
From: Avinash GOKHOOL <avinash at afrinic.net>
To: Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz>

Hi Frank,

Thanks for the encouraging words.
To answer your question, we need to be sufficiently confident that such
a tool will be useful and actually used by members.

As for the implementation, I think we can make it quite simple. Create
and Delete, as required, only route & route(6) objects via MyAFRINIC. If
someone does not wish to issue ROAs, she may still use the current
method to create her route objects.

However, if she wishes to issue ROAs, then when submitting the ROA form
on MyAFRINIC, we can lookup the existing route objects and if there are
some missing, ask if these need to be created. For that we will need to
have another form to capture and validate input for the other attributes
of the route object.

Similarly, when someone wishes to revoke her ROA, we may lookup the
route objects and delete them if she so wishes.

In this scenario, we do not really have to worry about route objects
being modified, since only the attributes "route" & "origin" are common
to a ROA.

However, in the event that a route object is deleted directly on the
WHOIS, the ROA cannot be automatically revoked.



On 10/10/2018 10:11, Frank Habicht wrote:
> Hi Avinash,
> thanks for the email.
> I think it would be a useful added feature.
> While [I agree,] it's not how this is done normally now, it's an
> improvement, and I don't see why this wouldn't be "the way it's done" in
> the future.
> And, if there are no objections, I think it would be very good if we
> could work towards this better future. and being ahead of the wave would
> also be good.
> What would it take to get it done?
> Regards,
> Frank
> On 05/10/2018 09:58, Avinash GOKHOOL wrote:
>> Hi Group members,
>> We have received a request from a member asking to have the possibility
>> of creating corresponding route objects from their ROAs.
>> While this is technically possible, it is not really the normal way of
>> adding authoritativeness to BGP announcements. You would normally create
>> your route objects and then issue ROAs according to the announcements.
>> We would like to have your input with regards to the added value that
>> such a tool would provide to members.
>> Please feel free to share your ideas and concerns.
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- Avinash Gokhool

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