<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Since section 12.12 of the bylaws is silent on the issue of whether a proxy is required to be a natural person, then yes, in theory, a body could be a valid proxy. Still any such body would only be entitled to one vote on any matter for which said proxy was appointed, so it would still require that proxy to effectively speak with one voice regardless of the number of natural persons comprising said proxy.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Q1: A RM can appoint one proxy, regardless of the number of natural persons comprising said proxy.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Q2: No, a RM cannot have a group of proxies, but they could appoint an entity consisting of multiple natural persons as a proxy as I read the bylaws.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Q3: One proxy. There is no apparent limit to the number of natural persons who may comprise the entity appointed as proxy, however.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Q4: Section 12.12 of the bylaws governs the appointment of proxies. It does not preclude the appointment of an entity consisting of multiple natural persons as a proxy.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 7, 2022, at 12:51 , Sylvain Baya <<a href="mailto:abscoco@gmail.com" class="">abscoco@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Dear PDWG,<div class="">Hope this email finds you in good health!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please see my comments below, inline...<br class=""><br class="">Le mardi 7 juin 2022, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> a écrit :<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class="">IMHO, the term “a representative” could refer to either a natural person representing a corporation, or a group of natural persons as a representative body.<div class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hi Owen,</div><div class="">Thanks for your email, brother!</div><div class="">Please add the comparison effect, before jumping</div><div class=""> to a conclusion :-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Given that in such ambiguities, it is generally taken to be the most liberal possible interpretation within reason, I would say the a group of natural persons as a representative body is valid in this context.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Again! i couldn't agree more, due to the presence </div><div class="">of the other part of that very sentence; you seem </div><div class="">to neglect :-/</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">...as the comparison is obvious, let me ask you to </div><div class="">answer, first, few simple questions:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Q1| How many proxies a resource member (RM) </div><div class="">can designate?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Q2| Is it possible that RM has *a* group of proxies?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Q3| if the answer of Q2| is yes, then; what is the </div><div class="">max number of proxies for such a group of?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Q4| i understand it's not sufficient to a resource </div><div class="">member to being represented by only one person, </div><div class="">then; which provision in both the AfriNIC's Bylaws </div><div class="">and/or the MU's Company Act (2001) allow it to </div><div class="">be more than only one's personal expectation?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hope this clarifies something!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Shalom,</div><div class="">--sb.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 2, 2022, at 11:09 , Sylvain Baya <<a href="mailto:abscoco@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">abscoco@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class="">{remove <a href="mailto:members-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">members-discuss@afrinic.net</a>}<div class="">Dear AfriNIC's Community, </div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">Hope this email finds you in good health!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks to find my comments below, inline...<br class=""><br class="">Le jeudi 2 juin 2022, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><wbr class="">> a écrit :<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 1, 2022, at 12:25 , Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank" class="">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 1 Jun 2022, 22:51 Ish Sookun, <<a href="mailto:ish.sookun@lasentinelle.mu" target="_blank" class="">ish.sookun@lasentinelle.mu</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class="">Hi Noah,
<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 1 Jun 2022, at 22:22, Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class="">Part of the above sentence reads ...</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class="">appoint "A" representative….</div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div class="">I understand the “A” and the second word is “representative”. A representative can be a person or a group of persons.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Hi Ish</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">English is not my lingo as Swahili was my first language and primary language but I tend to think that the meaning changes depending on how words are contracted together.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">1. A representative of....</div><div dir="auto" class="">2. Representatives of....</div><div dir="auto" class="">3. Representative</div><div dir="auto" class="">4. Representatives...</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Do all the above have the same meaning.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>It depends on the context, but certainly there is overlap of meaning amongst those terms.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">[...]</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In such a case of ambiguity, especially in a context where, as Andrew mentions, legal counsel being present to advise would be potentially important, “A representative” should be construed to include whatever “representative” the entity deems necessary to constitute “a representative”, even if that includes a team of people.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hi Owen,</div><div class="">Thanks for your email, brother.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">...considering the very context, what's your </div><div class="">understanding of the content of "a" here, please.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Look! the sentence ends with a simple comparison;</div><div class=""> isn't that the key for a common understanding of</div><div class="">the appropriate content of the word representative?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In other words: find the way *a* proxy is designated,</div><div class="">then you should be able to know more about the </div><div class="">first *a*...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks once more!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Shalom, </div><div class="">--sb.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It would be legitimate to insist that only one of those members of the “representative team” do the speaking and voting on behalf of the entire representative team, but limiting the online presence only to one representative per organization is unreasonable.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Further, there is very long and well established precedence against such a restriction. Any change of such magnitude should certainly come with sufficient notice for the change to be considered, deliberated, and either agreed or rejected by the membership.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br class=""><p class="">[...]</p>
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