<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I think you are misreading the Mauritius Companies Act and without realizing it you've actually agreed with me<br><br>The text of section 354:<br> 354. Arbitration (1) A company may, by writing under the hand of the director where the company has one director or where the company has 2 or more directors, under the hands of at least 2 directors, agree to refer and may refer, to arbitration, in accordance with the Code of Civil Procedure, any existing or future dispute between itself and any other company or person. (2) Every company which is party to an arbitration may delegate to the arbitrator power to settle any term or to determine any matter capable of being lawfully settled or determined by the company itself or by its directors or other governing body.<br><br>The Company - that is AfriNIC has the power to bind itself to arbitration. There is no power afforded to somebody who has a dispute with the Company to invoke... There is nothing to invoke by an applicant. At most somebody who is going to take AfriNIC to court could do is have their attorneys in writting propose referal but with AfriNIC already have declared that members must take it to court that is a fools erand. Until the Board issues a statement that it will refer matters to arbitration the profer from a plaintiff is a waste of their breath. As I've repeatedly said the Board can agree to refer the disputes which are bogging the organization down to arbitration if any of the counterparties refuse to agree then litigate out those cases but you've got fewer cases already. If you are reading in that section 354 must be or can be invoked by a party other than the Company itself then you are misreading the statute.<br><br>I also think your appeal to ICP-2 is misplaced for one very simple reason:<br>"All organisations that receive service from the new RIR must be treated equally. The policies and guidelines proposed and implemented by the RIR need to ensure fair distribution of resources, and impartial treatment of the members/requestors.<br>The new RIR should be established as an independent, not-for-profit and open membership association."<br><br>The fundamental problem with AfriNIC right now is that the appearance of bias against certain resource members is impossible to refute until the Board repudiates same malice against certain members and is seen to adhere to the principles of natural justice there is a problem. <br><br>Further the entire discourse of ICP-2 is against fragmentation which is exactly what the refusal to have an inter-RIR transfer practice accomplishes. There is a faction within AfriNIC that is at odds with the global nature of the Internet and who are the perpetual cause of problems in Africa. This merry band have found their scapegoat and are trying to keep a distraction going.<br><br><br>I fear that unfortunately ICP-2 had lofty goals set forth that needed to be complied with in order to see the establishment of AfriNIC and that while lip service and checklist compliance was met many of the criteria around cohesive community support were plastered in. It is certainly a tall order for anybody to try to get a region of Africa to become its own RIR but I don't actually know how ICANN will respond to a dissolution of an organization which serves as the RIR following activity that was in conflict with the intent of ICP-2. You also appear to be harbouring the belief that I want Afrinic dissolved, I don't I want it fixed and fixed enough that it just works and I don't have to care about it.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 14:10, <<a href="mailto:arnaud.amelina@togorer.tg">arnaud.amelina@togorer.tg</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Paul,<br>
<br>
From all I’ve read so far, the plaintiff never invoked section 354 of <br>
the company act to refer the dispute to arbitration and AFRINIC did not <br>
object to it. AFRINIC was instead dragged into court and forced to <br>
resist.<br>
<br>
Acting in good faith, if you want to wind down AFRINIC Ltd and get <br>
another organization to take over, why don't you engage the membership <br>
and convince them to put the company into liquidation as per Bylaws <br>
provisions?<br>
<br>
But before you get there you must first convince the AFRINIC community <br>
and the global Internet community since AFRINIC was formed by Community <br>
consensus through ICP-2 to become a regional RIR.<br>
<br>
These countless courts attacks serve different motives from the actors <br>
which are clearly and publicly known.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Arnaud<br>
<br>
On 2021-11-26 15:58, Paul Hjul wrote:<br>
> I am pretty sure all SA based members respect the rights of all other<br>
> members. At least I hope that is the case. It's not clear to me though<br>
> whether any actual member - with the person posting on behalf of the<br>
> organization that is a member - are actually advocating that Afrinic's<br>
> board continue with a course of disrespecting the rights of members. I<br>
> say this because for all the noise and bullshit that has come out<br>
> today - the whole idea of the Afrinic by-laws over-riding Mauritius<br>
> law was jarring to say the least - nobody has stepped forward and said<br>
> On behalf of member X it is proposed that the Board infringe on the<br>
> rights of members.<br>
> <br>
> Individuals who could well be speaking in their personal capacity and<br>
> who have a history of tribalist utterances in this community should<br>
> not be equated with anything other than dirty tricks.<br>
> <br>
> To test my belief that South African instiutions are not aligned with<br>
> Afrinic behaving in this manner I'll be seeking to put it on ZADNAs<br>
> SGM meeting next week's agenda. Unlike Afrinic ZADNA does actually<br>
> have a statutory endorsed position and of course its membership has a<br>
> big overlap to Afrinic resource members in South Africa.<br>
> <br>
> There is no reason why Afrinic doesn't get the principal litigation<br>
> expedited or handled by arbitration, if that litigation goes the way<br>
> of the plaintiff then either stop with this nonsense of trying to<br>
> infringe on their rights as found by the courts or accept that<br>
> dissolution is inevitable and work towards identifying a successor to<br>
> perform the vital roles at issue.<br>
> <br>
> From: Alan Levin <<a href="mailto:alan@vanilla.co.za" target="_blank">alan@vanilla.co.za</a>><br>
> Sent: Friday, 26 November 2021 13:55<br>
> To: Ben Roberts <Ben.Roberts@liquid.tech><br>
> Cc: AfriNIC Discuss <<a href="mailto:members-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Afrinic Court Updates<br>
> <br>
> Hi,<br>
> <br>
> We would definitely support Ben and Liquid on this, I suspect most of<br>
> the SA ISPs will be respecting the rights of all members. You<br>
> definitely can't boot Liquid if they sue you!<br>
> <br>
> Alan<br>
> <br>
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 10:48 AM Ben Roberts via Members-Discuss<br>
> <<a href="mailto:members-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@afrinic.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:members-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">members-discuss@afrinic.net</a>>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> Noah,<br>
> Thanks for this idea. I would not support it however since it might<br>
> compromise the rights of members in case of any arising current or<br>
> future dispute that any member has against AFRINIC..<br>
> <br>
> It is best that Afrinic and the member have their arguments in a court<br>
> of law. I am no legal expert but I would imagine that the primary<br>
> case should be treated as priority.<br>
> <br>
> Kind Regards,<br>
> <br>
> Ben<br>
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