<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 22, 2021, at 01:07 , Sylvain Baya <<a href="mailto:abscoco@gmail.com" class="">abscoco@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear AfriNIC's Community,</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please find my comments below, inline...</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 20 août 2021 à 17:36, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><wbr class="">> a écrit :<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="">I am confused… How is a question about consent an attempt to kill AFRINIC?<div class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hi Owen,</div><div class="">...brother, thanks for you email.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please add the context; then you'll become less confused :'-(</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>No, with the context, I still do not understand how a simple question constitutes an attempt</div><div>to kill an RIR. Indeed, I find that it is people who are resistant to the idea of questioning an</div><div>organization that are most likely to lead to said organizations demise or worse, its</div><div>descent into corruption and malfeasance.</div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class=""></div><div class="">Is AFRINIC so fragile that it cannot withstand a simple question of its consent </div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">AfriNIC needs to be defended these hard times and it appears that some of us </div><div class="">are doing very well *our* common duty (protecting our RIR against 'predators') </div><div class="">as a *community*. (You should have been proud of them :'-()</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">...i found it admirable! and i wouldn't like to cross their way; while they are </div><div class="">defending AfriNIC...not you? Feel free to continue to defend your champion, </div><div class="">though...</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>From my perspective I am attempting to defend AFRINIC and it’s member base</div><div>and community from a staff and board which are determined to violate the</div><div>rules as written.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class="">and cooperation in a process initiated by third parties allegedly on its behalf?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Question already answered here [1]! please let's know if it isn't enough for you.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I didn’t say that the question wasn’t adequately answered. I questioned the person</div><div>who characterized the asking of the question as an attempt to kill the RIR for that</div><div>act.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class=""></div><div class="">I would think not. If it is so fragile, then there are much bigger problems than its financial state.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen, could you, please, elaborate a bit more on the above?</div><div class="">...i can not wait to hear what you are predicting for the Future of AfriNIC [6] </div><div class="">and of the RFC7020. Please, be examplarily transparent :'-(</div><div class="">Don't run away!</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Because of my current role, I cannot further comment on the ongoing legal battle at this time.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I predict errata will be filed against RFC-7020 because it claims to document the current state</div><div>of the RIR system at the time of writing and the statement that global providers universally deal</div><div>with multiple RIRs has incorrect implications and is not entirely accurate. There are plenty of</div><div>global networks that deal with a single RIR and even those that deal with multiple RIRs do</div><div>not necessarily deal with the RIR for each and every region where they operate.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>There is widespread use of addresses from every RIR in other regions, including a lot of address</div><div>space in use within Africa that is issued by ARIN, RIPE, and APNIC.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""></div></body></html>