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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The bylaws are plenty of evident mistakes …<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Such as the understanding of the “community”, or use of “internet” instead of “Internet”, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>However the intent of 11.4 was “to resolve an urgent problem in Internet resources” (not issues in the PDP itself): The Board is allowed to change the rules (policies) with immediate effect -> this is not a Draft Policy Proposal, but a *<b>pre-ratified Policy</b>* (or if you want to say it in a different way Board writes a policy and immediately ratify it in the next second after they – the Board not the community - agree on the text).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The immediate effect meand immediate implementation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Then, they are mandated to get the community endorsment. However the *<b>only</b>* way to get the community endorsement it is a DPP via the regular cicle. If that DPP fails to reach consensus, the the Board ratified and implemented policy falls, but whatever effect it has caused in the previous weeks/months, remain in effect.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Dear AfriNIC's Community, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Please see my comments below, inline...<br><br>Le jeudi 5 août 2021, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Sylvain,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Hi Jordi, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Thanks for replying, brother.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>11.4 literally says policy not DPP.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>...exact, brother! but, btw, what is the lifecycle of <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>a DPP? That's my point :-/<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>It simply appears that they used inappropriate <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>terms, as you can see.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Also ready 11.5, otherwise you are taking it out of context.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Ok! thanks <<a href="https://afrinic.net/bylaws#b20-11">https://afrinic.net/bylaws#b20-11</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>~°~<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>[...]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:3.75pt;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify;box-sizing:border-box'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#757575'>11.4) Notwithstanding the provisions of Article 11.3 above, the Board may adopt such policies regarding the management of internet number resources where it considers that the same is necessary and urgent, having regard to the proper and responsible usage of these resources. <b>[Amended at the 2020 AGMM]</b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:3.75pt;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify;box-sizing:border-box'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#757575'>11.5) Endorsement of the policy adopted by the Board:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;text-indent:-71.4pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#757575'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#757575'>Any policy adopted by the Board under the provisions of Article11.4 shall be submitted to the community for endorsement at the next public policy meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;text-indent:-71.4pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#757575'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>ii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#757575'>In the event that such a policy submitted by the Board is not endorsed, the said policy shall not be enforced or implemented following its non-endorsement; however, any action taken in terms of the policy prior to such non-endorsement shall remain valid.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;text-indent:-71.4pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#757575'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>iii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#757575'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>[...]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>~°~<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>...again, i understand it as a mean to varying the <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>process...and i'm ok with it. If it's appropriately <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>used, it could be a useful legal tool, same as CPM <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>section 3.6.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Now, in this context of variation of an existant <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>PPD, which clearly define the lifecycle of a DPP, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>the BoD consider that they can adopt something. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>...the thing can simply not be a policy; but a DPP. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Are you getting me? again, a policy is a state of <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>a DPP which has been submitted to the PDWG, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>get discussed during at least two weeks, get <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>presented and discussed during PPM, get the <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>decision of the PDWG's Chairs whether it reach <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>the rough consensus or back to the list. If rough <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>consensus is declared, it's sent to the list for a <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>last call, during at least two weeks. If the consensus remains after that, it appears that <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>the PDWG has *adopted* that DPP. Then a <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>ratification report is sent to BoD, by the PDWG's Chairs, for consideration. Usually, the BoD ratify, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>but, exceptions occur. A ratified DPP becomes a <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Policy, then has to be implemented no more than six months after...when implemented it joins the <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>other Policies into the CPM.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>...i may be wrong, but those are the lines i have <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>followed to reach to that conclusion.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Hope this clarifies something.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Shalom, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>--sb.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> [...]</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br><br>-- <br>--<o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'>Best Regards !<br>__<br>baya.sylvain[AT cmNOG DOT cm]|<<a href="https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure">https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure</a>><br>Subscribe to Mailing List: <<a href="https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/">https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/</a>><br>__<br>#LASAINTEBIBLE|#Romains15:33«Que LE #DIEU de #Paix soit avec vous tous! #Amen!»<br>#MaPrière est que tu naisses de nouveau. #Chrétiennement<br>«Comme une biche soupire après des courants d’eau, ainsi mon âme soupire après TOI, ô DIEU!»(#Psaumes42:2)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>_______________________________________________ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss <o:p></o:p></p></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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