<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">There is nowhere or an incline mentioning that legal proceeding are rushed. <div class="">We all know how legal proceedings work and know that it requires time to ascertain and make clear, definitive judgement and decision. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Let's face the facts, AFRINIC is a terrible and difficult condition which one of the reason is due to some of the decisions that the organization made in the past. <br class=""><div>End of story. And also, you are not the only one that know about the history of AFRINIC and how it started. </div><div>Additionally, @Noah the fact that some community members do not align with you or have the same opinion as you, does not make them “pseudo ghosts” or “sock puppets” or whatever name you might come up with. </div><div>Learn to respect the opinions of others, no one is telling you to support it or promote it. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>Can I call you a GHOST as well cause we have different views?</div><div>And by the ways, Thanks for your future donation. Well appreciated.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Best regards, </div><div>Elvis. </div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 5, 2021, at 20:18, Murungi Daniel via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">One probable reason could be that CI were caught with their pants down and requested for time to cook up a new story :)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Christian Orozco <<a href="mailto:chresgoro@gmail.com" class="">chresgoro@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Legal proceedings are never rushed. <br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class="">Yes, correct. But what circumstance could have caused the need to set it next week? One probable reason could be AFRINIC's incapacity to provide necessary documents/ evidence. We do not actually know, yet Brian still has a reason to doubt. <br class=""><br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The Af* organisations that have collaborated with AFRINIC for over 20 years including African Governments<br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""> Indeed, there were instances that this collaboration is truly admirable. However, there's a lot at stake in AFRINIC's current situation. How certain are you that mere financial donation can suffice the challenge AFRINIC is facing? We should now be more attentive in keeping the internet's stability. And by that, we cannot just presume that AFRINIC will be able to go back on its feet easily and partake in such stability.</div><br class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 3:03 PM Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" class="">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 5 Aug 2021, 07:05 Brian Sowers, <<a href="mailto:b.sowers154@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">b.sowers154@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> The court is simply adjourning a week and a half later to deliberate again. </blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Legal proceedings are never rushed. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I appreciate this update from Eddy, but it doesn’t offer any hope to pro-AFRINICs other than a false optimism that AFRINIC builds an argument in the meantime to be even able to access its own funds.</blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Perhaps you missed all the Pro-AFRINIC public statements that various African Internet bodies made in support of AFRINIC.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">AFRINIC might not be able to access its own funds today but that does not mean that there are no other alternatives.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">AFRINIC during her inception in the earlier days had no money. AFRINIC was supported <span style="font-family:sans-serif" class="">financially</span> by African Institutions to operate and perhaps this is the part of Pro-AFRINIC history you do not know about.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">what other alternatives there are to AFRINIC. Africa, <br class=""></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">The Af* organisations that have collaborated with AFRINIC for over 20 years including African Governments.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">AFRINIC is not alone as it forms part of the Af* organisations that are willing to come together and support AFRINIC through financial donation so as to continue running its core functions and operations.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">The ISP associations are the other alternative and ANGOLA ISPA, TISPA, multiple IXPs across Africa and all those Af* organisations and NRENs and other members of the wider Internet community in Africa.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">The donations shall start with even myself as an individual. I just need to know which 3rd party supplier AFRINIC uses and I will make payments to them directly online via VISA or MASTERCARD.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">That is "Ubuntu".</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Cheers</div><div dir="auto" class="">Noah</div><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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