<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">How about just providing simple text answers to the questions? I don’t think webinars are necessary. I think that the questions need to be addressed and that there is really no difficulty to do so in text.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 5, 2021, at 06:03 , AFRINIC Communication <<a href="mailto:comms@afrinic.net" class="">comms@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Dear Mr Wollner,</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">This is a follow-up to our previous response to you regarding questions.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">We have planned to address these questions through a series of webinars. However, these AFRINIC webinar series that we started on 19 July 2021 (</span><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/announce/2021/002306.html" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/announce/2021/002306.html</a><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">) have since been put on hold for now due to ongoing matters.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">We shall communicate the new dates for the webinar series in due course.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Regards,</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">AFRINIC Communications</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">On 3 Aug 2021, at 13:33, Paul Wollner <<a href="mailto:paul.wollner@africaoncloud.net" class="">paul.wollner@africaoncloud.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Dear AFRINIC,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">It has been just over a month now since the mail below was sent and I feel that we still do not have any direct answer on the 4 questions that were raised.<br class=""><br class="">Can we please get a clearcut answer from AFRINIC on these questions?<br class=""><br class="">Regards<br class="">Paul Wollner<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">---- On Fri, 02 Jul 2021 14:24:05 +0200 Paul Wollner <<a href="mailto:paul.wollner@africaoncloud.net" class="">paul.wollner@africaoncloud.net</a>> wrote ----<br class=""><br class="">Mr. Kayihura,<br class=""><br class="">I refer to your email dated 30 June 2021.<br class=""><br class="">In it, you claim that Questions 1 to 3 were addressed during the open mic session held on 4 June 2021.<br class=""><br class="">The reality is that none of those questions were satisfactorily answered. They were addressed to the extent that the questions were acknowledged, then an attempt was made to obfuscate them and answer different questions while pretending to answer the questions asked, then a claim was made that the questions would be answered at a later date.<br class=""><br class="">In reality, no such answer has been forthcoming from AFRINIC. We recognize that these questions are likely inconvenient and come at what is almost certainly an inopportune time to be asking. Nonetheless, these are valid questions and as a resource member, we feel that we are being held at unfair disadvantage if AFRINIC will not provide a clear and direct answer to each of the questions about how it interprets policies in these areas.<br class=""><br class="">There’s too much at stake to allow AFRINIC staff to simply make it up as they go a long. We need a public commitment to the official interpretation of these areas of potential ambiguity in the current policy regime.<br class=""><br class="">As to the fourth item, while it is not our intent to micro-manage AFRINIC staff decisions, it is our conclusion that even if Madhvi did not actively participate in the fraudulent resource registrations and embezzlement, she surely must have either turned a blind eye (aiding and abetting) or she failed to notice it which at best displays a level of incompetence and failure to meet her duty of care in such a position.<br class=""><br class="">In summary, we renew our request for factual, reliable, direct answers to each of the queries and request that AFRINIC eschew further obfuscation and sophistry in the process.<br class=""><br class="">Thank you.<br class=""><br class="">Paul Wollner<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">---- On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 13:04:19 +0200 Eddy Kayihura <<a href="mailto:eddy@afrinic.net" class="">eddy@afrinic.net</a>> wrote ----<br class=""><br class="">Mr Wollner,<br class=""><br class="">I refer to your email dated 24 June 2021.<br class=""><br class="">Questions 1 to 3 were addressed during the open mic session held on 4 June 2021 and we undertook an action to organise a webinar within 2 months to discuss with the community the definition of “need-based” in the AFRINIC policies and bylaws.<br class=""><br class="">We are delighted to see that the discussion amongst the community has already started.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Regarding question 4, we cannot penalise a staff member unless we find concrete proof of their involvement in the misappropriation of the IP resources. As of now, we do not have such evidence on any of AFRINIC’s current staff members.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">The appropriate channel for such inquiry or complaint is to submit it via our Whistleblowing platform.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class="">Eddy Kayihura<br class=""><br class="">Chief Executive Officer,<br class="">African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)<br class="">…………………………………………………….<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">M. Wollner,<br class=""><br class="">Je me réfère à votre courriel du 24 juin 2021.<br class=""><br class="">Les questions 1 à 3 ont été abordées lors de la session 'open mic' qui s'est tenue le 4 juin 2021 et nous avons entrepris une action visant à organiser un webinaire dans un délai de 2 mois afin de discuter avec la communauté de la définition de "need-based" dans les politiques et les statuts d'AFRINIC.<br class=""><br class="">Nous sommes ravis de voir que la discussion au sein de la communauté a déjà commencé.<br class=""><br class="">En ce qui concerne la question 4, nous ne pouvons pas pénaliser un membre du personnel à moins de trouver des preuves concrètes de son implication dans la manipulation non autorisée des ressources IP. A ce jour, nous n'avons pas de telles preuves sur aucun des membres actuels du personnel d'AFRINIC.<br class=""><br class="">Le canal approprié pour une telle requête ou plainte est de la soumettre via notre plateforme de whistleblowing.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Cordialement,<br class="">Eddy Kayihura<br class="">Directeur général,<br class="">African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">RPD mailing list<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" class="">RPD@afrinic.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">RPD mailing list<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">RPD@afrinic.net<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Members-Discuss mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Members-Discuss@afrinic.net" class="">Members-Discuss@afrinic.net</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss</a><br class=""></blockquote><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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