<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 3, 2021, at 14:52 , Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" class="">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le jeu. 29 juil. 2021 à 02:44, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> a écrit :<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 28, 2021, at 16:57 , Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Oui en effet on se rappelle bien de cette période où le Board entrait dans le Mico-management d'Afrinic, et jouait quasiment le Rôle du CEO, sans que ce dernier ne réclame son droit, car ce sont eux qui l'ont recruté face à un Candidat hors du commun, respect de la communauté Internet mondiale. Il avait donc peut-être peur pour son poste. </div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>The CEO at the time that our addresses were issued was none other than Adiel Akplogan, so it’s not really clear to me who you think you are targeting here, as I thought he was in place since the beginning of AFRINIC. What early better candidate do you believe was passed up in hiring Adiel?</div><div class=""></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Why are you in a hurry to mention <b class="">Adiel</b> for? Are you desperate again?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>A hurry? You are the one who brought up the CEO. I merely pointed out which CEO you were accusing. Why do you have a problem with this? I’ll note that you still have not answered my actual question.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">As I said before, history knows who were in the place when all resources were provided to CI. After some research, we can summarize as follows:</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Adiel was not the ceo who allocated all the numbers and we can see how the allocations went 1st /12 2nd /12 and then the 1st /11 and 2nd /11 and all this happened within a 12 months time frame!</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Yes… And each with a valid justification and utilization data for previous resources duly and properly submitted.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Thus, CI looted the numbers within a year after first CEO, Adiel Akplogan left Afrinic. <b class="">The cat was away and the mice played?</b></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I take issue with your use of the term looted which implies a crime of theft during a war, riot, or other civil unrest. I do not believe such a civil unrest existed in AFRINIC at the time, nor do I believe that the resource registrations were obtained by theft.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Here are the CI allocations mixed with officers at time of allocations for everyone to see and know truth </div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""></blockquote>Corrections inline:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><b class=""><font color="#ff4013" class="">2004</font> ceo Adiel Akplogan </b></div><div dir="auto" class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2013 July 24 1st /12 </b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2013 July chair Viv Padayatchy </b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2014 September Adiel Akplogan resigned </b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2014 September chair Sunday Folayan</b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2014 December 01 2nd /12 </b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2014 December <font color="#ff2600" class="">31</font> acting ceo Patrisse <font color="#ff2600" class="">(Invalid because he is a resident of Mauritius and thus prohibited by bylaws from being CEO)</font></b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2014 December chair Sunday Folayan </b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2015 December 22 1st /11 </b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2015 December ceo Alan Barrett </b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2015 December chair Sunday Folayan</b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2016 September 23 2nd /11</b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2016 ceo Alan Barrett </b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2016 chair Sunday Folayan</b></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>So we have, according to you, a single /12 issued under Adiel, a /12 and a /11 issued under Patrisse, and a /11 issued under Alan Barrett.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I’m trying to get exact issue dates to confirm whether your chronology works or not, but even if it does, are you claiming that Patrisse and/or Alan were, in some way, corrupt or suborned improper allocations by the registry? That’s a pretty serious accusation and I’d say you should have some pretty strong evidence to back it up. Further, you still haven’t answered the question as to which candidate you feel was passed up for CEO who would somehow have not issued these allocations or why.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Some Board Directors 2014 - 2017 </div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2013 - 2018 Sunday Folayan</b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2014 - 2017 Andrew Alston</b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2009 - 2015 Mark Elkins</b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2014 - 2017 Kris Seeburn</b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">2013 - 2018 Haitham El Nakhal</b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">The full details are on Afrinic web site </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>You are mistaking “changed:” date (last update) for “issued:” date (not published).</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">—-</div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">inetnum: 154.80.0.0 154.95.255.255 /12 </b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">netname: Cloud-Innovation-v4-I </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">descr: Cloud Innovation Ltd </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">changed: <a href="mailto:hostmaster@afrinic.net" class="">hostmaster@afrinic.net</a> <b class="">20130724</b> </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">inetnum: 45.192.0.0 - 45.207.255.255 /12 </b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">netname: Cloud-Innovation-v4-I </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">descr: Cloud Innovation Ltd </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">changed: <a href="mailto:hostmaster@afrinic.net" class="">hostmaster@afrinic.net</a> <b class="">20141201</b> </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">inetnum:156.224.0.0 -156.255.255.255 /11 </b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">netname: CloudInnovation-infrastructure </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">descr: Cloud Innovation Ltd </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">changed: <a href="mailto:hostmaster@afrinic.net" class="">hostmaster@afrinic.net</a> <b class="">20151222</b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""> <b class="">inetnum:154.192.0.0 - 154.223.255.255 /11 </b></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">netname: Cloud-Innovation-v4-II changed: <a href="mailto:hostmaster@afrinic.net" class="">hostmaster@afrinic.net</a> <b class="">20160923</b> </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class="">board announced Adiel's depart September 2014, effective 31/01/2015 </b> </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><b class=""><a href="https://afrinic.net/20140917-ceo-adiel-akplogan-resign" class="">https://afrinic.net/20140917-ceo-adiel-akplogan-resign</a></b></div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">All this for the record and education. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Regards</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">--</div><div dir="auto" class="">Arnaud </div><div dir="auto" class="">... </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div>
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