<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mar. 3 août 2021 à 23:09, Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">In message <<a href="mailto:CAGDMR_cL96mMUfNsdq8k2PSsdRSYw1Jiz_K2NShiSYBe7S5ksQ@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">CAGDMR_cL96mMUfNsdq8k2PSsdRSYw1Jiz_K2NShiSYBe7S5ksQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>As I said before, history knows who were in the place when all resources<br>
>were provided to CI. After some research, we can summarize as follows:<br>
><br>
>Adiel was not the ceo who allocated all the numbers and we can see how the<br>
>allocations went 1st /12 2nd /12 and then the 1st /11 and 2nd /11 and all<br>
>this happened within a 12 months time frame!<br>
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I'm sorry, but your information is just not accurate. The version history<br>
of each block provides the correct information about the original<br>
allocation dates, and it is as follows:<br>
<br>
2013-07-24 -- <a href="http://154.80.0.0/12" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">154.80.0.0/12</a><br>
2014-12-01 -- <a href="http://45.192.0.0/12" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">45.192.0.0/12</a><br>
2015-12-22 -- <a href="http://156.224.0.0/11" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">156.224.0.0/11</a><br>
2016-09-23 -- <a href="http://154.192.0.0/11" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">154.192.0.0/11</a><br>
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Do you disagree with this timeline? If so, on what basis?<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">No you're right on this one, thanks for the correction, apologize fort the mistake. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Th names of board members or board chairmen on these dates is perfectly<br>
irrelevant because the board never reviewed any of these allocations,<br>
or any of the documents or other materials that were used to justify them.<br>
The allocations were all made as a result of "staff" decisions, not the<br>
board.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You can't be totally sure on this one, because it was the period we saw the Board playing the CEO Prerogatives, and entering in the micromanagement of AFRINIC, remember. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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The first two of these allocations were granted under CEO Akplogan, who<br>
did not leave his CEO position until January 31, 2015:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://afrinic.net/20140917-ceo-adiel-akplogan-resign" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/20140917-ceo-adiel-akplogan-resign</a></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'm OK with this one too, but he already resigned before the allocation, isn't it? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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The two later allocations were granted under CEO Barrett.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If do so, how come New CEO gave 2 of /11 in such a short time? </div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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ALL of the allocations were made during a time period when Ernest Byaruhanga<br>
was a high-ranking officer of AFRINIC.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You're right on this one too. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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In my opinion, -all- of these allocations are suspect, and they are made<br>
moreso because neither Lu Heng nor his apparent primary spokesman here,<br>
Owen DeLong, has seen fit to share with any of us any of the materials or<br>
documentation that was used to provide the required justifications for<br>
any of these allocations -originally- even though it is 100% clear that<br>
all such records, dating back nearly five years ago to over eight years<br>
ago, are no longer in any sense relevant to Cloud Innovation's -current-<br>
business model or business operations.<br>
<br>
The time for dark secrets is over. Lu Heng has elected to try his case<br>
on the mailing lists and in the press. OK. Fine. Then let's do that.<br>
<br>
The question of whether or not Lu Heng's -current- usage of his IP space<br>
does or does not meet acceptable criteria is irrelevant if his -original-<br>
justifications for the space were in any way inadequate or less than<br>
truthful. So let's see those original justifications and let the people<br>
decide whether or not Lu Heng even deserved to be granted this much IPv4<br>
space in the first place.<br>
<br>
Only Lu Heng can give us those original justification documents, if he so<br>
chooses. AFRINIC is still bound by confidentiality rules and thus cannot<br>
legally provide them to any party outside of AFRINIC.<br>
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<br>
Regards,<br>
rfg<br>
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