<div><div dir="auto">+1 Paul. I hope the above gets addressed as soon as possible.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best regards,</div><div dir="auto">Lamiaa</div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mar. 3 août 2021 à 10:34, Paul Wollner <<a href="mailto:paul.wollner@africaoncloud.net" target="_blank">paul.wollner@africaoncloud.net</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u><div><div style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Dear AFRINIC, <br></div><div><br></div><div>It has been just over a month now since the mail below was sent and I feel that we still do not have any direct answer on the 4 questions that were raised.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Can we please get a clearcut answer from AFRINIC on these questions?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards<br></div><div>Paul Wollner</div><div><br></div><div id="m_2848130201467321722m_-5169065764158093042Zm-_Id_-Sgn"><div><br></div></div><div style="border-top:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);height:0px;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;line-height:0px"><br></div><div><br><div id="m_2848130201467321722m_-5169065764158093042Zm-_Id_-Sgn1">---- On Fri, 02 Jul 2021 14:24:05 +0200 <b>Paul Wollner <<a href="mailto:paul.wollner@africaoncloud.net" target="_blank">paul.wollner@africaoncloud.net</a>></b> wrote ----<br></div></div></div></div><div><div style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><br><blockquote style="margin:0px"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:"Lato 2",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;float:none">Mr. Kayihura,</span></span></span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:"Lato 2",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;float:none">I refer to your email dated 30 June 2021.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:"Lato 2",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;float:none">In it, you claim that Questions 1 to 3 were addressed during the open mic session held on 4 June 2021.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:"Lato 2",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;float:none">The reality is that none of those questions were satisfactorily answered. They were addressed to the extent that the questions were acknowledged, then an attempt was made to obfuscate them and answer different questions while pretending to answer the questions asked, then a claim was made that the questions would be answered at a later date.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:"Lato 2",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;float:none">In reality, no such answer has been forthcoming from AFRINIC. We recognize that these questions are likely inconvenient and come at what is almost certainly an inopportune time to be asking. Nonetheless, these are valid questions and as a resource member, we feel that we are being held at unfair disadvantage if AFRINIC will not provide a clear and direct answer to each of the questions about how it interprets policies in these areas.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:"Lato 2",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;float:none">There’s too much at stake to allow AFRINIC staff to simply make it up as they go a long. We need a public commitment to the official interpretation of these areas of potential ambiguity in the current policy regime.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:"Lato 2",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;float:none">As to the fourth item, while it is not our intent to micro-manage AFRINIC staff decisions, it is our conclusion that even if Madhvi did not actively participate in the fraudulent resource registrations and embezzlement, she surely must have either turned a blind eye (aiding and abetting) or she failed to notice it which at best displays a level of incompetence and failure to meet her duty of care in such a position.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:"Lato 2",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;float:none">In summary, we renew our request for factual, reliable, direct answers to each of the queries and request that AFRINIC eschew further obfuscation and sophistry in the process.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:"Lato 2",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;float:none">Thank you.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:"Lato 2",sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;float:none">Paul Wollner</span></span></span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div id="m_2848130201467321722m_-5169065764158093042x_-534102496Zm-_Id_-Sgn"><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div style="border-top:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);min-height:0px;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;line-height:0px"><br></div><div><div><br></div><div id="m_2848130201467321722m_-5169065764158093042x_-534102496Zm-_Id_-Sgn1">---- On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 13:04:19 +0200 <b>Eddy Kayihura <<a href="mailto:eddy@afrinic.net" target="_blank">eddy@afrinic.net</a>></b> wrote ----<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px"><div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Mr Wollner,</span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">I refer to your email dated 24 June 2021.</span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Questions 1 to 3 were addressed during the open mic session held on 4 June 2021 and we undertook an action to organise a webinar within 2 months to discuss with the community the definition of “need-based” in the AFRINIC policies and bylaws.</span><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">We are delighted to see that the discussion amongst the community has already started.</span><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Regarding question 4, we cannot penalise a staff member unless we find concrete proof of their involvement in the misappropriation of the IP resources. As of now, we do not have such evidence on any of AFRINIC’s current staff members. </span><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The appropriate channel for such inquiry or complaint is to submit it via our </span><a href="https://afrinic.net/whistleblowing" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"><u style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Whistleblowing</u></span></a><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> platform. </span></span></p><div><br></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Regards,</span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Eddy Kayihura</span><br></p><div style="line-height:2.1599999999999997;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Chief Executive Officer,</span><br></div><div style="line-height:2.1599999999999997;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)</span><br></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">…………………………………………………….</span><br></p><div><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">M. Wollner,</span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Je me réfère à votre courriel du 24 juin 2021.</span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Les questions 1 à 3 ont été abordées lors de la session 'open mic' qui s'est tenue le 4 juin 2021 et nous avons entrepris une action visant à organiser un webinaire dans un délai de 2 mois afin de discuter avec la communauté de la définition de "need-based" dans les politiques et les statuts d'AFRINIC.</span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Nous sommes ravis de voir que la discussion au sein de la communauté a déjà commencé.</span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">En ce qui concerne la question 4, nous ne pouvons pas pénaliser un membre du personnel à moins de trouver des preuves concrètes de son implication dans la manipulation non autorisée des ressources IP. A ce jour, nous n'avons pas de telles preuves sur aucun des membres actuels du personnel d'AFRINIC.</span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Le canal approprié pour une telle requête ou plainte est de la soumettre via notre plateforme de </span><a href="https://afrinic.net/whistleblowing" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"><u style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">whistleblowing</u></span></a><span style="vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">.</span></span><br></p><div><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div style="line-height:2.1599999999999997;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Cordialement,</span><br></div><div style="line-height:2.1599999999999997;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Eddy Kayihura</span><br></div><div style="line-height:2.1599999999999997;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Directeur général,</span><br></div><div><span style="font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap;text-align:justify">African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)</span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><br></div><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div>_______________________________________________ <br></div><div>RPD mailing list <br></div><div><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a> <br></div><div><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a> <br></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div><br></div>_______________________________________________ <br>RPD mailing list <br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a> <br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a> <br></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div><br></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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